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Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Texgnome1 on October 03, 2006, 01:07:22 PM
Here is the list of new animals coming in MM2:

1. Beluga Whale  (Tundra)
2. West Indian Manatee  (Coastal)
3. Bottlenose Dolphin  (Coastal)
4. Blue Marlin  (Pelagic)
5. Narwhal  (Tundra)
6. Sea otter  (Coastal)
7. Manta Ray  (Reef)
8. Rockhopper Penguin  (Coastal)
9. California Sea Lion  (Coastal)
10. Goblin Shark  (Benthic)
11. Scalloped Hammerhead Shark  (Pelagic)
12. Blacktip Reef Shark  (Reef)
13. Whale Shark  (Benthic)
14. White Shark  (Benthic)
15. Leatherback Sea Turtle  (Pelagic)
16. Green Sea Turtle  (Coastal)
17. Pacific Walrus  (Tundra)
18. False Killer Whale  (Coastal)
19. Orca  (Tundra)
20. Short Finned Pilot Whale  (Pelagic)

There may or may not be some unlockable items, we won't know for sure until the full release.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: MarineManiac on October 03, 2006, 01:39:27 PM
The list is GREAT!!!!: :) : I can't wait to hear what unlockables there are if any.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Ouch on October 03, 2006, 01:42:43 PM
I am loving this list, and most of the animals I've seen in screenshots are so realistic, especially the Sea Lion. I think I'm going to love this XP.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Megaraptor on October 03, 2006, 01:43:49 PM
I feel that this has to be the best possible list. THere isn't really anything i can think of that i'd like to change.  I wonder how the Narwhal is gonna look?
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Ethiopian Wolf on October 03, 2006, 01:45:45 PM
Quote from: Megaraptor
I wonder how the Narwhal is gonna look?

Awesome, if I know Blue Fang. I am overjoyed at the prospects of 5 sharks This is just amazing! I can't believe MM2 is almost here!
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: world on October 03, 2006, 01:59:19 PM
Scalloped hammer head shark?Iwould had great hammerhead shark,other than that,its an awesome list!!
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Megaraptor on October 03, 2006, 02:02:41 PM
THe Great hammerhead is very large, and isn't nearly as common as the Scalloped Hammerhead. I guess they went for Common instead of wellknown.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: MarineManiac on October 03, 2006, 02:06:53 PM
Now that I think about it there are a few animals that I would have changed: instead of having two blackfish, as the False Killer Whale and Pilot Whale are called, I would have replaced Pilot Whale( since none has ever been in captivity) with any one of the three River Dolphins.  I also would have replaced one of the turtles with an Eelectric or Moray Eel, since those do grow to a considerable size.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Ethiopian Wolf on October 03, 2006, 02:08:45 PM
Yeah, when you're limited to 20 animals, you shouldn't make similar ones. Diversity is a good thing.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Texgnome1 on October 03, 2006, 02:09:20 PM
Guys, don't start.  You're bordering on wishlist territory.  It's okay so far, just an early warning.  :soccer2:
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: MarineManiac on October 03, 2006, 02:11:30 PM
Really?  Sorry, okay I'll stop then.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Ethiopian Wolf on October 03, 2006, 02:12:41 PM
Me too. Sorry.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Texgnome1 on October 03, 2006, 02:13:24 PM
I edited my post after re-reading yours.  Just be careful is all I'm saying.  I understand they tried to go with as many as they could and lots of people will be disappointed.  All we can do is hope they will keep reading those wishlists lol!

It's simply not possible for everyone to be happy with the animal selection, same as it has been for every other release.  That being said, I do agree it's a valid concern.  There certainly seem to be a couple of notable omissions.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: csleesburg on October 03, 2006, 02:13:57 PM
[modnotice=csleesburg]GUYS & GALS - I just want to tell you that I spoke to Tex today, and HE'S NOT KIDDING ABOUT THE WISHLISTS! He'll slam this closed so fast and you won't have anywhere to talk about it until it comes out. Plus, the personal side of it wont be very nice, either. He's VERY SERIOUS about this. Just a warning. [/modnotice]
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Animalover44 on October 03, 2006, 02:15:21 PM
The new animal list looks great!!  I can't wait for this expansion to come out.  I especially love all of the new features.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: WolfXQueen on October 03, 2006, 02:20:05 PM
Oh, man... I can't wait to see their goblin shark.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: kiwah on October 03, 2006, 02:23:00 PM
I can't wait! the leatherback turtle sounds cool! And sea otters? I am syched!
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Post by: penguinman on October 03, 2006, 02:25:44 PM
YAY BF! Such a wonderful list! I'm gunna freak out cause all of the animals I wanted are here!

BELUGA!
NAHRWAL! Weeeeeeee! Mixed exhibit with caribou, belugas and nahrwals.. here I come!
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Megaraptor on October 03, 2006, 02:35:38 PM
Quote from: penguinman
YAY BF! Such a wonderful list! I'm gunna freak out cause all of the animals I wanted are here!

BELUGA!
NAHRWAL! Weeeeeeee! Mixed exhibit with caribou, belugas and nahrwals.. here I come!


That sounds like a fantastic exhibit idea! I'm going to make a coastal Zoo, and in the center there will be a large lagoon with a dock (the elevated path) over it. It'll have a White Shark, and it'll have a JAWS sort of look to it.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Snowstalker on October 03, 2006, 02:36:17 PM
I've been hoping for a sea lion since before all the original ZT2 animals were confirmed. I'd pay the full $30 just for that. The great white (on the loading screen for the demo)
looks almost like the real thing, and so do the others.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Wild One on October 03, 2006, 02:56:46 PM
This is fantastic news! A blue marlin? That's going to be the first animal I make an exhibit for! :woot: Excellent news, thank you Texgnome for finding the time to post this, and thank you Blue Fang for the information! :IloveZA:
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Megaraptor on October 03, 2006, 03:03:14 PM
Quote from: Snowstalker
I've been hoping for a sea lion since before all the original ZT2 animals were confirmed. I'd pay the full $30 just for that. The great white (on the loading screen for the demo)
looks almost like the real thing, and so do the others.


What loading screen!? I really need to see this Great White Shark image.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: amkid247 on October 03, 2006, 03:23:05 PM
for the demo, mega
 i would have loved some more fish (besides sharks), and maybe a seal but our talented modders can fix that no problem, these animals are soo cool i wouldnt have even thought they would have had more pinnipeds.
edit: is the walrus a seal or sea lion?
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: dinwrest on October 03, 2006, 03:52:08 PM
I believe walruss (or is it walri ?) are their own species. But they are closests to seals in looks. I wanted to see pictures of some of these. I hope a beta tester posts pics...
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Post by: Zooasaurus on October 03, 2006, 03:56:25 PM
I love it!: :) :  The 5 shark species made me go crazy! My absolute fav. animal in MM will be the Goblin Shark.
i personally think there are a bit to much cetaceans, but there aren't much fish that grow large enough, so that does make sense. Man, its aweosome!:surprise:
i wonder why the great white is benthic though:shocked:
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Cuddly Panda on October 03, 2006, 04:08:55 PM
I never knew the Pilot Whale was in there.. :woot:

The only thing I would change is swap the goblin shark for Marine Iguana. : :( : Other than that, its a truly great list! :woot:
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: lizardlips on October 03, 2006, 04:24:03 PM
Some may have scoffed when I said that a whale shark was a viable option, but it's there! (NOTE FOR STAFF: THIS WAS A MERE HUNCH AND I KNEW NO MORE ABOUT THE UPCOMING GAME THAN ANYONE ELSE WHO DIDN'T BETA.) (NOTE TO OTHER MEMBERS: I REALIZE I SCOFFED WHEN YOU SAID THAT THE WHITE SHARK COULD MAKE IT IN. I WAS WRONG, AND I APOLOGIZE.)

Yay! It's finally out! Can't wait to see shots of ALL the animals!

I actually have some mixed emotions about the list. The sharks should be great, the turtle I've worked with in the demo, green sea, is great! However, as for the last animal being a blue marlin, I AM a little dissappointed. However, I understand their need to insert at least ONE bony fish!:laughing:

Now, for pelagic, will there be a different sea floor than benthic?
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Springfield Elephant on October 03, 2006, 04:29:28 PM
Just a quik question, will we be able to see any screens? I cant wait! There is NO animal that i dont like! The first animal im going to put in is a sea lion!!!!! Or a Manta Ray, but i dont know!
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 03, 2006, 06:00:45 PM
I wonder if there will be any user created downloads for Marine Mania?:hmmm:
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Alpha Dilophosaur on October 03, 2006, 06:02:05 PM
I'm a little disappointed with them not including a sting ray or a moray eel or something...

And I'm glad they have five sharks, instead of just including hammerhead and black-tip, or something like that. :specool:
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Megaraptor on October 03, 2006, 06:07:29 PM
Quote from: lizardlips

Now, for pelagic, will there be a different sea floor than benthic?


The Pelagic Biome is probably gonna have two different light shades of sand. While Benthic will probably have a dark sand and a dark rock terrain.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: csleesburg on October 03, 2006, 06:08:33 PM
Quote from: Zoocrazyman
I wonder if there will be any user created downloads for Marine Mania?:hmmm:

Gee, ya' think? :lolol:
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: PYGMYhippo on October 03, 2006, 06:10:32 PM
Quote from: Zoocrazyman
I wonder if there will be any user created downloads for Marine Mania?:hmmm:

Oh, I bet the designers will be working on that the minute they get the game,:laughing:  there is a lot of interesting possibilities.:hmmm:

Kinda makes me want to start designing.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Packraptor on October 03, 2006, 06:11:20 PM
I love this expansion. I don't have it yet, but I love it. I only have one disappointment, and that is that it didn't have a marine iguana. I was looking forward to that. But, besides that, I couldn't have asked for more!
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Post by: Budgielover101 on October 03, 2006, 06:43:55 PM
I'm excited about all these animas! i can't wait to see the narwhal :wub: thankyou BF and Tex!
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Ironchef on October 03, 2006, 06:55:30 PM
This is so exciting!  I can't wait for this exp.
Title: yeah
Post by: Tazzie-Tiger99 on October 03, 2006, 07:06:03 PM
yeah no marine iguana

oh yell this plus the koi which is kinda of an animal because u can put it  anywhere there are so many possibilities for making animals i am drooling at the thought of it

i really cant wait for the black tips and the whale sharks my self
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: kiwibuddy on October 03, 2006, 07:32:11 PM
Well, I alrady knew the whole list. But I'm really excited too! I'm most excited about the pilot whale, since it's brand new. I'm not as happy with the marlin, narwhal, or goblin shark. But it'll be fun to add them to my zoos!... marine parks! :woot: :IloveZA:
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Texgnome1 on October 03, 2006, 07:39:07 PM
Editing the list to include the biomes for each animal by request.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Otter Lord on October 03, 2006, 07:41:00 PM
*OTTERS!!!*
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And some large Dolphins too! Short Finned Pilot whales and False Killer Whales!! ^^  :loony:
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Post by: Budgielover101 on October 03, 2006, 07:55:16 PM
The otters and manatees are cute i think :wub: i saw some screens of them on Gamespot.
Title: Sea Iguana
Post by: nutrit on October 04, 2006, 01:12:51 AM
Have anyone heared anything about sea iguana, I would love that in MM?

Is the list of animals on the first page confirmed by anyone?

Cheers and thanks for any replies
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Budgielover101 on October 04, 2006, 01:14:40 AM
I'm pretty sure the list on the first page is confirmed. sorry looks like no Sea Iguana
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Crookshankz227 on October 04, 2006, 01:24:44 AM
Why is the whale shark benthic rather then pelagic? ah well... I am loving the list, though - finally, sea lions and walruses!!!!!!
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: dinwrest on October 04, 2006, 02:31:22 AM
I'm kinda disappointed that there are only 2 reef animals (manta ray and black-tip reef shark). But I can't wait for the pilot and false killer whales!
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Packraptor on October 04, 2006, 03:41:34 AM
Quote from: nutrit
Have anyone heared anything about sea iguana, I would love that in MM?

Is the list of animals on the first page confirmed by anyone?

Cheers and thanks for any replies

Yeah, no Marine Iguanas. I'm a bit disappointed in that, but still, we've got some great animals here! I can't wait to make an exhibit with the hammerheads!
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: africanwilddog on October 04, 2006, 04:17:39 AM
WOW!!!! That is an AMAZING list! What won't I do to get this game!

Sad they dont have a marine iguana. But otherwise, impossible for me not to get it!
I really want to see the animals thought! Dream of Marine parks!
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Megaraptor on October 04, 2006, 05:05:14 AM
Quote from: Texgnome1
Editing the list to include the biomes for each animal by request.

Thanks!

I have to admit, i'm a little surprised at the lack of Reef animals. But I'm really excited for Benthic, especially the White Shark and Goblin Shark.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: dinorob12345 on October 04, 2006, 05:12:36 AM
how bog is the whale skark in the game? i bet it;s huge
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: penguinman on October 04, 2006, 05:25:47 AM
Ya, I too am surprised at only 2 reef animals, but hopefully we can fix that :wink:
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Otter Lord on October 04, 2006, 06:07:09 AM
They are missing a big chunk in the lower part of the food chain. No small fish like tuna, salmon, or anything like that.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: csleesburg on October 04, 2006, 06:53:50 AM
Quote from: nutrit
Have anyone heared anything about sea iguana, I would love that in MM?

Is the list of animals on the first page confirmed by anyone?

Cheers and thanks for any replies

The list is confirmed by those of us beta testers who actually have the game.
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Post by: Ouch on October 04, 2006, 07:13:25 AM
My opinions on the animals.

Beluga - Cool.
Narwhal - Also cool. It'll be interesting to see it in the game.
Pacific Walrus - Looks cool, AND it performs in shows.
Orca - I loved it the instant I saw it all that long time ago.
False Killer Whale - Sounds interesting.
Bottlenose Dolphin - I again loved it the moment I saw it.
California Sea Lion - I think it is the most realistic animal so far.
Green Sea Turtle - Looks great.
Rockhopper Penguin - Looks good, if a bit freaky.
Sea Otter - I hope they break shellfish with stones.
West Indian Manatee - Looks a little freaky.
Manta Ray - Looks nice.
Blacktip Reef Shark - At least they used a shark I've seen.
Scalloped Hammerhead Shark - Nice.
Blue Marlin - Should be interesting.
Leatherback Sea Turtle - Always looked nice.
Short-Finned Pilot Whale - I hope it goes with the turtle and Marlin.
Whale Shark - Sounds great, but I think they should have been Pelagic.
Goblin Shark - The unknown is always interesting.
White Shark - We'll see. I'm pleased that the sharks are all different.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Tigeress_10 on October 04, 2006, 07:48:19 AM
Two reef animals now, no grassland animals when ZT2 was originally released. Didn't our designers fix that? =)

CALIFORNIA SEA LION! WEWT! :woot: :wub: And dolphins/orcas!  :flipper:
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Post by: Alpha Dilophosaur on October 04, 2006, 08:19:24 AM
I wonder if the designers would be able to make the ambients into animals, because it would be cool to have lionfish, crabs, and remoras swimming around wherever you want. :specool:
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: csleesburg on October 04, 2006, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: Alpha Dilophosaur
I wonder if the designers would be able to make the ambients into animals, because it would be cool to have lionfish, crabs, and remoras swimming around wherever you want. :specool:

[modnotice=csleesburg]No, ambients are the same. And remember y'all, DO NOT START WISHLISTS HERE. (Just a friendly reminder).[/modnotice]
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Post by: legomannate on October 04, 2006, 09:03:11 AM
:surprise: I thought ZT1 MM had a lot of animals, what are all the other ZT2 expansions, because I am thinking about buying ZT2 when this comes out.
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Post by: Rosinas Cat on October 04, 2006, 09:05:34 AM
Well legomannate, I didn't realise you don't have ZT2. There are two other expansions, Endangered Species and African Adventure. And the Dino Danger premium download.

Well I am really pleased at this list. Just one thing though. Confession: I have a dictionary that usually sits gathering dust on the shelf. But I had to blow the dust off to look up 'Pelagic'.:blushing: :laughing:

Oh this xp is going to be fantastic!:woot:
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Eriorguez on October 04, 2006, 10:34:44 AM
Alright, time to create my mixed exibits!
Beluga - Narwhal: Both are close relatives, both are cool, both from the same biome. Perfect.
Pacific Walrus - Sea lion: Well, they mix well.
Orca - False Killer Whale - Bottlenose Dolphin: Wanted it since I heard False killer whale. A must be.
Green Sea Turtle - Leatherback turtle - Galapagos tortoise - African spurred tortoise: Slow-mo exibit!
Rockhopper Penguin - Emperor penguin: FINALLY, penguins with company different from user-made animals!
West Indian Manatee - African elephant/Hippo - Asian elephant/Pigmy hippo: What?
Scalloped Hammerhead Shark - Whale Shark - White Shark: 3 big sharks. Coolio.

I'm looking forward to this!

P.S::welcomean back.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: lamna on October 04, 2006, 12:19:10 PM
Quote
I wonder if there will be any user created downloads for Marine Mania?
I think somebody has alredy made a skin for a comman dolphin (from the demo) The list looks great, and there are also artic cod and tuna enricment. And koi decrations. But the whale shark and great white have odd biomes. Great whites are costal (though they do migrate into pelagic) and whale sharks are pelagic and reef.

After ive fiddled a bit and made a marine park im going to build the glapagos, with costal deep water and scrub land. shame there is marine igana, still as i say zoo simulation players cant be chosers and never look a gift sealion in the mouth!
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Post by: Ouch on October 04, 2006, 03:20:01 PM
I know what I want to do Mixed Exhibit wise.

I wanna do a Bottlenose Dolphin/California Sea Lion/Green Sea Turtle/Rockhopper Penguin/Sea Otter/West Indian Manatee exhibit. Make the most of the new coastal biome, after all. Lets hope they don't try and eat each other.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Megaraptor on October 04, 2006, 03:39:52 PM
Hmm, first, i'm gonna make a Tundra Section of a zoo. It'll be divided into four sections.
It'll be the shape of an X, with an enclosure in each open section. Large Mountains will make up the X shape.
The Sections-
Polar Bears-Mix land/water
Orca/Beluga-All water
Narwhal/Penguin-Water, some land
Caribou-All land.

Thats just the beginning. I'll also have a large Coastal section, which will also feature some Benthic animals.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: csleesburg on October 04, 2006, 03:45:35 PM
Quote from: lamna;143838
I think somebody has alredy made a skin for a comman dolphin (from the demo) !

If they have, they better not release it. Even though the Beta NDA is over, extracting the files would be foolish before the offical release.
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: dinwrest on October 04, 2006, 03:52:40 PM
Quote from: Rosinas Cat;143804
Well I am really pleased at this list. Just one thing though. Confession: I have a dictionary that usually sits gathering dust on the shelf. But I had to blow the dust off to look up 'Pelagic'.:blushing: :laughing:


Don't worry , you aren't alone I only knew what coastal and reef meant :sweatingb I have so many ideas for new zoos and most peoples sound so cool. I'm probably going to have a spiral of elevated path and put a tank in the middle. Narrow , but cool looking. I think the orca should have gone in something other than tundra. Usually they aren't that far North.
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Post by: dinomaster30 on October 04, 2006, 05:38:19 PM
Hey maybe they will have the igauanas the stingrays (RIP steve) and the eels and such as bonus downloads! and whale sharks!!!
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 04, 2006, 06:20:49 PM
I'm a little disappointed that there isn't that many reef animals like moray eels or sting rays but the rest of the list is awesome!! I really like White Sharks and am looking forward to see them in the game(or at least some screenshots!).
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Post by: Bigheads96 on October 04, 2006, 06:56:45 PM
For all of you designers, I have lots of animal ideas for you!

[modnotice=csleesburg]Pay particular attention to the Wishlist WARNING please.[/modnotice]
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: DingoMutt on October 04, 2006, 07:04:29 PM
This is so awesome, I'm about to wet myself! Thanks so much for the list! Yay sea lions!
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Post by: hupdo1593 on October 04, 2006, 07:15:57 PM
those are awesome animals! i have one question, no one has to answer it, i'm just putting it out there: so they have whale sharks in the game, but why not humpback, sperm, and right whales? they only grow like ten feet longer, right?
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Megaraptor on October 04, 2006, 07:48:04 PM
Quote from: hupdo1593;143970
those are awesome animals! i have one question, no one has to answer it, i'm just putting it out there: so they have whale sharks in the game, but why not humpback, sperm, and right whales? they only grow like ten feet longer, right?

Whale Sharks are fairly common now adays in captivity. Sperm, Right and Humpback whales have never been in captivity.
WHale Sharks- Commonly 40 feet, realy around 50ft. 20 tons
Right Whale-60ft
Humpback-50ft 40 tons
Sperm-60ft 55 tons (once recored over 80 feet long)

WHale Sharks make alot of sense, while those whales could never be held in captivity.
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Post by: lizardlips on October 04, 2006, 08:23:00 PM
I agree. 90% of the animals in MM2 seem to make sense. Even the white shark. It's so awesome that Monterey Bay Aquarium has another one!:woot:

This is all so awesome and overwhelming!!:woot:

But what about goblin shark, pilot whale, narwhal and manta? Are they all in captivity, or have been? I'm not even saying that they had to be in an aquarium, as long as they were in captivity.

For the leatherback turtle, since it's pelagic, does it just use the tropical island to breed, and not even have the choice of land?
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Post by: HorseGal on October 04, 2006, 08:42:40 PM
I'm so happy about this list! Yay, Sea Otters and Belugas! This is going to be one heck of a game!
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Post by: kiwibuddy on October 04, 2006, 08:49:51 PM
I was upset to see no sunfish or sawfish. But the list is still good. Hate to be a copy cat, but here are my opinions on the animals.

Orca - Good
Bottlenose Dolphin - Good. And three varients!
False Killer Whale - Not sure if that black whale in the trailer movie thing was a pilot whale or f. k. whale.
Beluga - Sounds Good
Narwhal - Not exactly realistic but sounds good. Will be fun to mix with belugas.
Short Finned Pilot Whale - Same with f. k. whale. Sounds interesting.
California Sea Lion - Good
Pacific Walrus - Good. I saw a pic of it performing in a show. It was waving to the show hostess.
Southern Sea Otter - Looked kinda big in the pic.
West Indian Manatee - Looks light in color and a bit odd, but should be good.
Blacktip Reef Shark - Kinda small, but looks good.
Scalloped Hammerhead Shark - Good. Almost evil looking. :wicked:
Great White Shark - Half and half on this. Kinda looks like a tiger shark.
Whale Shark - Oh joy!
Goblin Shark - Kinda 50/50 again, but actually kinda excited about it.
Manta Ray - Good
Blue Marlin - Wouldn't it hit it's long nose into the tank walls? :unsure:
Green Sea Turtle - Looks kinda cute. :wub: I could just hug it. Three varients also!
Leatherback Turtle - Looks kinda funky from above. (In the very first pics of MM, you can see it peeping out of the water. I personally think we'd be fine with only one turtle species.)
Rockhopper Penguin - Good. And the baby is so cute. :wub:

I'm eager to see what the pilot whale/false killer whale, whale shark, goblin shark, and marlin look like in-game! :woot:
Title: New Animals List - SPOILER!
Post by: Wild One on October 04, 2006, 09:39:39 PM
Think of all the mixed exhibits we can make in this game now!

Narwhals, Pacific walrus, and belugas, and maybe the orca if it doesn't eat them. :laughing:

Leatherback turtle and green turtle

Manta rays and blue marlins MIGHT work right? :huh:

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Blue Marlin - Wouldn't it hit it's long nose into the tank walls? :unsure:


LOL! I think they might be a tad smarter then that (even in games! lol), if it does that, then it'll remind of of that Tom and Jerry cartoon where Tom pounded the marlin's nose with a hammer down to a barrel, then it couldn't move. :woot:
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Post by: Alpha Dilophosaur on October 04, 2006, 09:44:55 PM
I wonder if the animals will be pretty good about being put in different biomes than the ones there assigned in...:hmmm:

Anywho, I pretty much like all the animals, though I might have taken out the false killer whale or the blue marlin to put in something like a moray eel, a bat ray, or a sunfish.
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Post by: Crookshankz227 on October 05, 2006, 01:18:33 AM
I am very please with most of the animals. The narwhal in the loading screen looks fabulous!! The only problems I have are:
1. The whale shark is benthic!! The benthic zone is the bottom of the ocean, where there is NO light except bioluminescent light!! It eats phytoplankton and krill - both of which inhabit the littoral zone! Because of the lack of light, no plankton/krill can live at these great depths!!! Whale sharks would starve to death if they lived in the benthic zone. They should be pelagic, and they even wander into coastal and reef regions.
2. Again a problem with biomes, the great white shark lives in coastal zones - quite the opposite of the benthic zone!

Other than this I am very bpleased with all the other animals, particularly the walrus and sea lion. I also cannot wait for the manatee, but I must admit it's skin looks very odd in the loading screen, I hope it looks better in the real game!
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Post by: Megaraptor on October 05, 2006, 04:07:38 AM
While i agree 100% that both the Whale and White shark should be in different biomes, i could see why they went with the Benthic biome. Benthic isn't neccessarily the bottom of the ocean, only the rest of the ocean from a specific depth (around 700m) and down.

But there is still a chance that the list were seeing could be an older one, and has changed since the demo was created. This is even more possible seeing how the demo was probably prepared a while ago, and not just a week or so in advance.

I was hoping to be able to make a White Shark/Sea Lion mix exhibit of sorts. Hopefully the White's will not mind.
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Post by: Agent Froggy on October 05, 2006, 04:21:51 AM
I think these animals are great! :woot: Especially the electric or morray eel idea, Marine Maniac! I think it would be awesome to swim WITH an eel!!! :surprise:
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Post by: Crookshankz227 on October 05, 2006, 05:55:44 AM
Quote from: Megaraptor;144073
While i agree 100% that both the Whale and White shark should be in different biomes, i could see why they went with the Benthic biome. Benthic isn't neccessarily the bottom of the ocean, only the rest of the ocean from a specific depth (around 700m) and down.

But there is still a chance that the list were seeing could be an older one, and has changed since the demo was created. This is even more possible seeing how the demo was probably prepared a while ago, and not just a week or so in advance.
The benthic zone is still aphotic - so they cannot inhabit such water. Their diets would not allow it. :wink:  I do hope it is changed! :original:
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Post by: pepe_starr on October 05, 2006, 09:47:54 AM
Wonderful to hear about these marine animals. Especially the Californian Sealion. Surprised about no seals being included though.
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Post by: Gloria on October 05, 2006, 10:41:37 AM
Yeah, I would have loved a harbor seal! They're my favourite seals. :p

The inclusion of a sea otter automatically makes the EP worth buying for me, though. XD

I'm also excited to see the manta ray, turtles and the goblin shark. (I mean, dude, goblin shark. How awesomely random and cool is that?)
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Post by: steven90 on October 05, 2006, 12:20:30 PM
ohohhh i CANNOT wait to make a sharkexhbit with every species..

are all of the shark species the same bomie?
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Post by: Packraptor on October 05, 2006, 12:36:44 PM
No, but three of 'em are. Whales, Whites, and Goblins are benthic, hammerheads are pelagic, and blacktip reefs are reef.
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Post by: amkid247 on October 05, 2006, 02:21:53 PM
because the new penguins use the rock island will the old penguins use the floating ice in the same way.
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Post by: dinomaster30 on October 05, 2006, 05:23:01 PM
Hey maybe with the great white now the croc won't be the only(offical) animal that attacks when not hungrey!HAHA
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Post by: s214701 on October 05, 2006, 05:37:05 PM
could any of the betta testers tell us a list of which new animals can perform in shows?
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Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 05, 2006, 06:16:17 PM
I have a feeling some one will make megalodon out of the white shark....
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Post by: HyShqa on October 06, 2006, 06:35:53 AM
Quote from: MarineManiac;143462
Now that I think about it there are a few animals that I would have changed: instead of having two blackfish, as the False Killer Whale and Pilot Whale are called, I would have replaced Pilot Whale( since none has ever been in captivity) with any one of the three River Dolphins.


I know this was pages and pages and pages ago, but I can't resist =P

Pilot whales have been - and still are - held in captivity. right now seaworld california has two - Bubbles and Shadow:
http://www.cse.ucsd.edu/users/gllee/Sea%20World/191_9111.JPG
http://biology.fullerton.edu/biol317/im/s02/sw/pilot_whale_rescue.jpg
:wub:
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Post by: animal artist on October 06, 2006, 09:22:54 AM
Quote from: s214701;144283
could any of the betta testers tell us a list of which new animals can perform in shows?


In the beta it was:
Orca
Dolphin
Cal/sea lion
Walrus
False killer
Beluga
Pilot whale
Otter
(I think i got them all - anyone else?)


They might change though............:blink:
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Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 06, 2006, 06:47:14 PM
That's alot more performing animals than the original zoo tycoon's marine mania.
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Post by: lizardlips on October 06, 2006, 06:52:38 PM
Are the only animals you can swim with the cetaceans and the turtles/manta?
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Post by: Crookshankz227 on October 06, 2006, 09:11:09 PM
I hope we will be able to swim with the sharks! :unsure: I also hope that we can swim with the seals!!
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Post by: Alpha Dilophosaur on October 06, 2006, 09:20:50 PM
I think you should be able to swim with all the animals... wait, can you swim with the penguins?
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Post by: Budgielover101 on October 06, 2006, 09:32:39 PM
no you can't swim with penguins, yet you can swim with turtles lol. Although, why would anyone really swim with penguins in the real world? (aside from the fact that they are penguin fanatics :P)
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Post by: HorseGal on October 06, 2006, 09:32:42 PM
Nope, not the penguins. I guess they're too small.
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Post by: happyholly on October 06, 2006, 10:47:39 PM
Quote from: Budgielover101;144594
no you can't swim with penguins, yet you can swim with turtles lol. Although, why would anyone really swim with penguins in the real world? (aside from the fact that they are penguin fanatics :P)



Sorry, I don't follow. When I go into zookeeper mode I am in the water, both with turtles and penguins? :unsure: Isn't that as near as we get to 'swimming' with them?
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Post by: Budgielover101 on October 06, 2006, 10:56:38 PM
It means when you approach them up close you can press spacebar not just to groom them, but to swim with them on their back for a little while. :original:
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Post by: Panda King on October 06, 2006, 11:04:52 PM
The possibillities of what a bit of tweaking to the koi can do is near-endless! With model editing, mabye we can have a whole Japan theme!

But on topic:

A whale shark? OWNAGE!

And bethnic tanks, eh? I can finally have a bit of adventure in my zoos!

But I'm really looking forward to a koi...  A quick Q.... Does it eat? Can it be eaten?
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Post by: Seraphii on October 07, 2006, 05:32:24 AM
hahaha, I agree with you on the Whale Shark, that will be so much fun, but i think ill place it in a reef sometimes, make a huge Whale Shark/Green Seaturtle/Manta Ray
wxhibit... that would definately rock =D
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Post by: Rosinas Cat on October 07, 2006, 05:34:31 AM
Hey seraphii, that sounds like a really nice mixed exhibit!: :) :
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Post by: Seraphii on October 07, 2006, 05:39:40 AM
Yeah, it does, except for the part when I build it, maybe someone more talented, like you or zoohio or Bengal =D
 Another thing I am excited for is to see what the master zoo builders will do with MM2!
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Post by: SageofWater on October 07, 2006, 06:26:18 AM
If nobody has noticed the Sea Fan has varients.
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Post by: Alpha Dilophosaur on October 07, 2006, 08:40:30 AM
Quote from: Budgielover101;144610
It means when you approach them up close you can press spacebar not just to groom them, but to swim with them on their back for a little while. :original:


Maybe you cat swim with animals that regularly go on land, because the transition would be kind of weird.
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Post by: Ironchef on October 07, 2006, 09:36:19 AM
Well, you can swin with sea turtles, and they go on land.  Also, I beleive I've seen swimming with sa lions somewhere.  I could always be mistaken.
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Post by: DingoMutt on October 07, 2006, 09:38:24 AM
I think the koi is just placeable and cannot be eaten, I think it just swims aroung and looks nice.

http://media.pc.ign.com/media/815/815854/img_3950269.html
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Post by: Bep-Boi on October 07, 2006, 05:14:10 PM
Yeh, that is true. Think of the mixed exhibits! When I heard the orca was in tundra I instantly thought of a half land half water exhibit with polar bears lol.
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Post by: Nique on October 07, 2006, 05:20:58 PM
Mixing Polar Bear and Orca would look beautiful! That's a great idea. Two of my favorite animals... I can't wait for the release...
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Post by: Alpha Dilophosaur on October 07, 2006, 06:05:22 PM
I cant wait to make a coral reef exhibit with the manta ray and the black tip reef shark. Hopefully, they dont attack eachother. :laughing:
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Post by: SwordMako on October 07, 2006, 06:17:56 PM
Quote from: Bep-Boi;144808
Yeh, that is true. Think of the mixed exhibits! When I heard the orca was in tundra I instantly thought of a half land half water exhibit with polar bears lol.

Assuming the orcas don't eat the polar bears like they did in ZT1...
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Post by: Budgielover101 on October 07, 2006, 06:22:15 PM
no! i hope not! not the polar bears!....good mixed exhibit though
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Post by: Megaraptor on October 07, 2006, 08:25:34 PM
Quote from: Alpha Dilophosaur;144715
Maybe you cat swim with animals that regularly go on land, because the transition would be kind of weird.


Did you guys happen to think that we might be only able to swim with animals that would normally be safe to swim with? No-one would randomly grab ahold of a White Shark, or any shark for that matter, and try to go for a swim. A Cetacean or turtle, on the other hand, would be a likely candidate to swim with.

A penguin is too small to pull the weight of a human being through water, as would be a Sea Otter, Sea Lion, or Goblin Shark.
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Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 07, 2006, 08:46:43 PM
I know I wouldn't swim with a white shark! Maybe a turtle or dolphin.
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Post by: Birdman on October 08, 2006, 12:51:37 AM
you just go along side them. they dont pay any attention to you.

you can swim with any animal. i think
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Post by: dinwrest on October 08, 2006, 06:35:37 AM
Quote from: Megaraptor;144856
No-one would randomly grab ahold of a White Shark, or any shark for that matter, and try to go for a swim.


Actually there is the whale shark. People have walked on them without them noticing nevermind swimming with them. Plus this is family friendly , if you can walk beside a T-rex without getting hurt , you can swim with a shark.
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Post by: dinorob12345 on October 08, 2006, 07:04:23 AM
what do you guys think the anbients will be? i know the lion fish and rge reoma
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Post by: Flames The Dragon on October 08, 2006, 07:09:36 AM
i wonder if we can ride thw whale sharks it may so be because many people do it in real life and now that I know the list and excited but I don`t think a goblin shark was ever kept in captive before though?:hmmm:
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Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 08, 2006, 08:26:03 AM
There are scenes in some Nature shows showing someone riding along side a whale shark but I don't think I have seen anyone ever touch one before.Also, I'm pretty sure there is no captive goblin sharks.
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Post by: DingoMutt on October 08, 2006, 08:29:51 AM
Do you think the great whites would eat people? That would be kinda graphic...
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Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 08, 2006, 08:32:21 AM
Maybe they just swallow them whole...
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Post by: dinomaster30 on October 08, 2006, 08:58:40 AM
no whale sharks are filter feeders, and i also think that their throat is only the size of a dime like modern whales
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Post by: Megaraptor on October 08, 2006, 09:17:13 AM
Quote from: dinomaster30;144988
no whale sharks are filter feeders, and i also think that their throat is only the size of a dime like modern whales


They were talking about the White Shark. I bet it will eat people like the T-Rex did.
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Post by: turtleman2351 on October 08, 2006, 06:02:28 PM
Thats an awsome list. The only things I would change is to replace the False Killer Whale with a Harbor Seal (come on, no seals?) and to replace the Great White Shark (thats impossible, they can never live in captivity) with some kind of Eel or River Dolphin/Porpise. Otherwise, great graphics and looks like a good buy.
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Post by: lizardlips on October 08, 2006, 06:06:31 PM
The white shark is fine. They've had in at the Monty Bay Aquarium has had one, and currently has one.
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Post by: turtleman2351 on October 08, 2006, 06:11:41 PM
Oh. I thought I read somewhere that they always die in captivity. Guess not. Still, they have too much sharks.
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Post by: Alpha Dilophosaur on October 08, 2006, 06:28:41 PM
I think they survive in captivity, but their not all that happy and don't do well.
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Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 08, 2006, 06:38:48 PM
They need alot of space and prey to hunt and food to eat.
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Post by: zoocrazy on October 08, 2006, 06:51:43 PM
I like you idea of an eel, turtleman, but I don't know what animal I would want it to replace!  I like them all, I just wish we get like 25 animals or something.
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Post by: turtleman2351 on October 08, 2006, 06:55:44 PM
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I like you idea of an eel, turtleman, but I don't know what animal I would want it to replace!  I like them all, I just wish we get like 25 animals or something.


The False Killer Whale would be a good replacee because we already have the Killer Whale. Plus we have a lot of sharks in my opinion. I would love for a seal download though. Especially Harbor, with those cute white babys.
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Post by: Crookshankz227 on October 09, 2006, 07:25:23 AM
The false killer whale and killer whale are very different - it's similar to the pilot whale, however. In any case, I think it's going to be very interesting - it will perform in shows and such. I myself would have replaced the goblin shark, it's impossible to keep in captivity (it lives in VERY deep waters) with either a river dolphin or a wobbegong.
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Post by: Alpha Dilophosaur on October 09, 2006, 08:22:45 AM
If I could take out one or two animals, i would take out te False killer whale or the Pilot whale. They could easily be made into eachother by a designer. I would have prefered an eel of some sort, or maybe a nurse shark.: :) :
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Post by: lizardlips on October 09, 2006, 12:58:59 PM
I don't see the sense in complaining, since it's too late to change, anyway. I can't wait for all these animals! It really is fun to think of all the mixed exhibits. How biome tolerant are the animals?
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Post by: Ouch on October 09, 2006, 01:38:09 PM
If the original MM is anything to go by, it'll be very much tolerant.
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Post by: pikapower704 on October 09, 2006, 02:30:07 PM
I loved Beta Testing this game. I made a huge exhibit of all Belugas. I named my favorite one Tookie.

They really put in a nice batch of animals in the game. Out of all of the animals in this expansion, I have to say my favorite one was the Green Sea Turtles. One variant in particular was very pretty.
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Post by: lizardlips on October 09, 2006, 03:08:15 PM
Are you talking about the one with the green shell? Do they really exist?
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Post by: pikapower704 on October 09, 2006, 03:35:27 PM
Quote
Are you talking about the one with the green shell? Do they really exist?


Nah, there's one variant with a "Teal" colored shell and a dark brown body. It really is rather pretty. If I can find one in the game, i'll post a screen shot of it. But, again, that is a bit off topic. Please excuse me, Tex.


:yesmaster
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Post by: zookeeperrob on October 09, 2006, 03:52:39 PM
hi guys whats the diffrence between the blue marlin and swordfish?
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Post by: Cuddly Panda on October 09, 2006, 03:58:52 PM
I think it is very strange how Steve said it would be SO unrealistic to have a giant squid, and then we have a goblin shark... :unsure:
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Post by: Eriorguez on October 09, 2006, 04:13:54 PM
Quote from: zookeeperrob;145363
hi guys whats the diffrence between the blue marlin and swordfish?


Apart of size, the marlin has a shorter sword and a different shaped *thing that fishes have and I can't recal it's name right now* in it's upper part.
Check Wiki.
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Post by: kingkong10 on October 09, 2006, 05:57:31 PM
Have goblin sharks ever been held in captivity before? If so, the game would be realistic. I will go look that up!:thumbsup:
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Post by: adam1990 on October 10, 2006, 11:28:28 AM
Why is whale shark listed twice?  Anyway, it's a great list of aquatic animals.
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Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 10, 2006, 01:24:54 PM
I don't mind having the goblin shark because it's so exotic and strange.Not to mention random!
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Post by: Ouch on October 10, 2006, 02:52:19 PM
Err, I'm sorry, I don't know what list you're reading Adam1990...but it isn't.
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Post by: breyer on October 10, 2006, 03:02:34 PM
i think your getting the white shark and whale shark mixed up Adam1990: :) :
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Post by: MississippiKite on October 10, 2006, 03:08:33 PM
Wow that list is awsome!!! *w00t*
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Post by: Uzmutt on October 10, 2006, 06:25:26 PM
Thanks for the list.
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Post by: Crookshankz227 on October 11, 2006, 09:27:51 AM
Quote from: kingkong10;145390
Have goblin sharks ever been held in captivity before? If so, the game would be realistic. I will go look that up!:thumbsup:

It has, but the fish in question died after a few days. :crying:

How many offspring do all the animals have? (if you guys are allowed to tell us :innocent: )
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Post by: Amber1983 on October 11, 2006, 01:07:09 PM
One thing that i found as pretty unrealistic is the lionfish.  They do look awesome, but no zoo/marine park in their right mind would put them in a tank with other species like dolphins.  I actually owned a lionfish about 6 months ago and they can kill you.  Mostly they give you a sting that makes you want to die, but they have killed some people.  

Another thing is i wonder if the koi will die if you put them in saltwater since they are freshwater lol
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Post by: Bigheads96 on October 11, 2006, 01:32:07 PM
Yes but lionfish are ocean dwellers and would be found in oceans so it's pretty realistic.
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Post by: Amber1983 on October 11, 2006, 01:40:08 PM
yeah but in a confined environment  it's just and injury waiting to happen.  Like in my marine tanks that i have i would never put a lionfish with any larger fast moving fish like tangs, because they WILL get stung.  Sometimes it can kill them but most of the time it gives them an injury that it VERY prone to infection.  I have seen it happen
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Post by: Eriorguez on October 11, 2006, 01:44:50 PM
I can't wait for this. Shame it comes later in Europe (but this is nothing if I think in Crooky). About the animals, it's just a perfect list, I wanted badly something official to go with my Emperor penguins.
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Post by: Cheetah on October 11, 2006, 01:58:00 PM
But the lionfish is just an ambient, it can't do anything.

:whistling Unless someone made it into an adoptable zoo animal for download when MM2 comes out.
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Post by: Amber1983 on October 11, 2006, 02:03:33 PM
yeah i know, i'm just saying it's really unrealistic.  I do think it looks pretty awesome though, just not realistic..
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Post by: Ouch on October 11, 2006, 02:18:33 PM
I have actually seen a Lionfish being kept in the same tank as a Soilder Fish (I think) and a Porcupine Puffer Fish. In a way, the three went together well.
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Post by: Amber1983 on October 11, 2006, 02:22:51 PM
but thoes are slow moving predatory fish that were probally about the same size.  It's actually a little dangerous for the lion to be kept with any puffers or triggers because they will use their beaks to bite the spines on the lionfish.
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Post by: csleesburg on October 11, 2006, 03:35:33 PM
Okay, y'all, let's have no more arguing about the fishes, please! And be careful, you're getting close to Wishlist territority, there, too, Cheetah.
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Post by: zootycoonbob on October 11, 2006, 03:58:39 PM
Dose any one know when MM2 is coming out?



                      :unsure:
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Post by: MarineManiac on October 11, 2006, 04:56:23 PM
MM2 is coming out:
U.S., October 17th, 2006
Europe, Ocotber 27th, 2006
Australia, November 7th, 2006
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Post by: Crookshankz227 on October 12, 2006, 02:01:12 AM
And India - never!~ :sign_lol:

Does the blue marlin actually look like the one on the site? It somehow looks different from all the other animals for some reason.
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Post by: nrg800 on October 12, 2006, 02:32:31 AM
November 7th, 2006, 18 days I can't wait that long :pulls out hair.
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Post by: Budgielover101 on October 12, 2006, 03:08:32 AM
7th? i thought it was the 2nd? *groan* lol not longer, oh well I think its going to be worth it :woot:
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Post by: X'Ray on October 12, 2006, 03:13:48 AM
7th? : :( : lol i thought it was coming out on the 1st. all well il just wait another 6 extra days lol
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Post by: MarineManiac on October 12, 2006, 11:45:28 AM
Mabye I shouldn't have said anything:unsure:,  I hate to be the bearer of bad news.  I'm sorry:blushing:

By the way, the U.S. release date is 17th, what stores usually get these games the next day, besides Gamestop and EBgames?  I forgot to pre-order mine(not that big of a deal) but I want the game the day after its released.  Any help would be appreciated( PMing me is okay so we don't get off topic here.)
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Post by: eye_of_the_tiger on October 12, 2006, 02:25:54 PM
i kind of like the idea of the goblin shark.
it lets me have that famous "first aquarium to successfully keep a goblin shark!" feeling
plus, its the only animal that truly fits the benthic biome
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Post by: Cuddly Panda on October 13, 2006, 01:05:40 AM
Here's some model comparisons.

Beluga and Short-Finned Pilot Whale (the picture of the beluga ingame looks really different)
(http://zootycoon.com/NR/rdonlyres/54173700-655E-4D29-8749-D21268189653/0/beluga.jpg)(http://zootycoon.com/NR/rdonlyres/2EED9597-4C8B-451A-AE94-1E68A12872E3/0/pilot_whale.jpg)

All sharks
(http://zootycoon.com/NR/rdonlyres/701D75A3-7213-441A-A021-F0B9617C186C/0/blacktip_reefshark.jpg)(http://zootycoon.com/NR/rdonlyres/3875BE26-3380-4DEB-99A5-1A9D22821B12/0/shark_goblin.jpg)(http://zootycoon.com/NR/rdonlyres/3476B96B-2C72-4059-8315-D17CA3041998/0/hammerhead.jpg)
(http://zootycoon.com/NR/rdonlyres/4E4FBC68-8DB0-4701-8A74-6F22FD6BAB5A/0/whale_shark.jpg)(http://zootycoon.com/NR/rdonlyres/7305208D-BEE5-43EF-A05F-683B1AA8E2A5/0/white_shark.jpg)
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Post by: nrg800 on October 13, 2006, 01:07:42 AM
look at the top 2 they look the exact same, so is the sea otter on land and the mircat.
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Post by: Cuddly Panda on October 13, 2006, 01:09:21 AM
Mircat? What's that?

Dolphins
(http://zootycoon.com/NR/rdonlyres/E17BF3B4-B55D-4A03-A3AA-B32143D0B806/0/dolphin.jpg)(http://zootycoon.com/NR/rdonlyres/F7044F67-19DF-4F30-BFBA-B567189A7C54/0/whale_falsekiller.jpg)(http://zootycoon.com/NR/rdonlyres/0120AE87-CE49-4FDA-827C-8D42EE85E3CE/0/orca.jpg)

Walrus and sea lion
(http://zootycoon.com/NR/rdonlyres/9F998DBE-67CF-4055-B939-D9EE64EABABA/0/sealion.jpg)(http://zootycoon.com/NR/rdonlyres/F05F1CF4-EAF1-4D84-A12C-E7C196EB8820/0/walrus.jpg)
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Post by: Cuddly Panda on October 13, 2006, 01:23:21 AM
Leatherback and green sea tutles
(http://zootycoon.com/NR/rdonlyres/617074B1-710C-49A0-8641-9B2192B140A7/0/leatherback_turtle.jpg)(http://zootycoon.com/NR/rdonlyres/2EE45A5D-6D86-4F64-8AA9-855F31AC92E9/0/seagreen.jpg)

Rockhopper and emporer penguins
(http://zootycoon.com/NR/rdonlyres/7A5262F3-A7D3-48E7-872B-049DDC75D2A6/0/penguin.jpg)(http://zootycoon.com/NR/rdonlyres/D31A4DEF-957F-421C-AF2D-C529B52CA9B5/0/PenguinEmperor_Adult_F.jpg)
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Post by: Cuddly Panda on October 13, 2006, 01:36:00 AM
Oh meerkat! right, here's they're comparisons:

(http://zootycoon.com/NR/rdonlyres/489A677D-2446-418D-B3CF-70D929D63862/0/seaotter.jpg)(http://zootycoon.com/NR/rdonlyres/228279F1-6AC0-4B21-9106-0B7ED115066E/0/Meerkat_Adult_F.jpg)

After looking at them, I think they look VERY different.
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Post by: nrg800 on October 13, 2006, 01:39:53 AM
Yeah they do but I just saw them poping up on that minigame.
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Post by: Gloria on October 13, 2006, 01:51:25 AM
... *raises skeptical eyebrow at sea otter model* That just looks WRONG. :blink:

Frankly, I'm a little disappointed that they take so long to make the EPs, charge $30-40 bucks for 'em and yet appear to put so little effort and creativity into the animal models.
I mean, sure, 3D modelling and animation takes work, but not THAT much work. You'd think they'd try for a little more variety...

But then I'm a visual artist and wildlife buff, not a game programmer. >_>

Eh, whatever. I'll buy the stuff anyway. XD
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Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 13, 2006, 03:30:12 AM
Hey I've got a Question!!

Is the white shark the same as the great white shark because I have heard of a white shark before, in a book, and it had one page of info for it and as soon as I turned the pages it had Great White Shark data.....
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Post by: nrg800 on October 13, 2006, 03:36:33 AM
Yeah it is their the exact same, as far as I know.
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Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 13, 2006, 03:44:49 AM
Thanks for the help! :thumbsup:
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Post by: Crookshankz227 on October 13, 2006, 05:30:22 AM
It bugs me that they call it a white shark as opposed to a great white shark for some odd reason...

I think all the animals look really different from each other. I'm very pleased with this expansion.
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Post by: Volksdragon on October 13, 2006, 11:40:14 AM
I'm excited about MM2. My favorite has to be the Whale Shark, whoo!
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Post by: Amber1983 on October 13, 2006, 12:00:13 PM
i think all the animals look awesome.  It gets annoying with people always saying that the models are the same. They are not.  Of corse some animals are going to look alike a little, even in the wild they do.  What do you want, them to make the beluga look like a bird or a dog because it looks to much like the pilot whale?  They are similar in the wild?  what more do you want?  Sorry i just had to rant a little
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Post by: csleesburg on October 13, 2006, 12:32:30 PM
Having been in Hawaii, Alaska and California, and having seen whales in all of them, I know that except for size, the whales I've seen look very much the same. Their skins are slightly different colors, but the shape of them is very similar. I think the MM animals are quite good, myself.
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Post by: Amber1983 on October 13, 2006, 12:46:03 PM
lived in alaska (from ages 6-21) and cali lol I'm glad you understand what i'm saying though.  I just don't get why everyone is complaining about a couple animals looking the same, what do they want them too look like? lol
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Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 13, 2006, 12:58:02 PM
I wonder how the water affects are?Ripples,waves.....
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Post by: Crookshankz227 on October 14, 2006, 09:18:43 AM
There are already ripples in ES - just make sure your settings are "Very High".

The only two which look similar are the beluga and pilot whale, even there the pilot whale has a pronounced dorsal fin, and is much stockier than the beluga. I think they look fairly different though, so it's all good. I am very very pleased with the expansion so far - I hope the other animals are as good as the four in the demo!!

Has anyone noticed that one of the white patches on the orca is gray instead of white?
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Post by: wolfkid92 on October 14, 2006, 09:40:31 AM
yes the saddle is white, idk why, i didnt even know they had them until someone brought it up on one of the discussion threads. =/
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Post by: adam1990 on October 14, 2006, 12:46:25 PM
I did get whale shark and white shark wrong, I misread it, they are different.  I think the animals are more interesting in MM2 than the original MM, but that's just my opinion.
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Post by: DinoBoy on October 14, 2006, 12:53:59 PM
I'm sooo getting this expansion!

I love the narwhal and the goblin shark!!!

I'm gonna get started as soon as I get it on a freshwater expansion. :D

As for the models, yes, a few of them look the same. But does that stop any of us from downloading user-made animals?

EDIT- By the way, aside from koi being a scenery object, I bet I could change the model into some freshwater fish that will be adoptable animals! :P
Talapia for meh hippos, and salmon for teh bears!
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Post by: ZAMAN on October 14, 2006, 05:12:06 PM
This list looks awsome.    :sign_newh I hope goblin shark looks evil. evil:badgnome:
anyone know a place were you can find a pic of marlin?
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Post by: hupdo1593 on October 14, 2006, 05:27:38 PM
welcome, zaman! hope you enjoy the site as much as the rest of us!

i think the animals are awesome, especially the goblin shark, false killer whale, pilot whale, and leatherback turtle, because they are different and i never would have expected those animals in ANY zoo/wildlife game.
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Post by: Simba on October 15, 2006, 01:00:35 AM
Quote from: wolfkid92;146469
yes the saddle is white, idk why, i didnt even know they had them until someone brought it up on one of the discussion threads. =/


Off topic: What does "idk" mean??:wacko:
This Ep is like sooooooooo Awesome, The white shark is as ferocious as it shd be! I was afraid that it' d be cartoonish! BF has done a Great job!!:laughing:

Edit by Mika: IDK means "I don't know" :happy:

Oh thanx!
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Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 15, 2006, 06:02:35 AM
White sharks are my favorite animals right behind Komodo dragons which is already in the game!!!!
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Post by: wolfkid92 on October 15, 2006, 06:57:48 AM
Quote from: DinoBoy;146508
I'm sooo getting this expansion!

I love the narwhal and the goblin shark!!!

I'm gonna get started as soon as I get it on a freshwater expansion. :D

As for the models, yes, a few of them look the same. But does that stop any of us from downloading user-made animals?

EDIT- By the way, aside from koi being a scenery object, I bet I could change the model into some freshwater fish that will be adoptable animals! :P
Talapia for meh hippos, and salmon for teh bears!


plus you could just make the new placeable fish that arnt adaptably by coding them like koi.
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Post by: Springfield Elephant on October 15, 2006, 09:09:49 AM
Quote from: Amber1983;146216
lived in alaska (from ages 6-21) and cali lol I'm glad you understand what i'm saying though.  I just don't get why everyone is complaining about a couple animals looking the same, what do they want them too look like? lol

 
Im actually quite pleased with the selection of the animals, and the way they look. I have never complained about any of BF's animals and i wont start now! (well maybe ive complained a little, but never really hated their animals) I love the way th pilot whale looks and same with the beluga.
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Post by: Spirit of the Night on October 15, 2006, 10:15:17 AM
I think people have to realize that in any ZT2 expansions animals will be similar. This is because BF uses a basic model and then morphs it into several animals. Thus, whne they made big cats they just tweaked a model a little. Alos, the FKW and killler whale, poliot, beluga, and narwhale, sea turtles, and walrus and sea lion, and all the sharks (except the whale shark) are just vairations of the same models. This is a major factor in what animals go into an expansion because it saves them time in creating more models. Thta is why the false KW is in there, that is why the goblin shark is in there, and in every expansion that is what we will get.
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Post by: wolfkid92 on October 15, 2006, 12:28:17 PM
plus they dont have to make a a lot of animations then to fit 20 different models.  these animals are awsome and i know bf will never dissapoint with any animal they do.
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Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 15, 2006, 04:39:15 PM
I can't believe the game is coming out this Tuesday!!!!: :) : : :) : : :) :
The sharks look great! The leatherback sea turtle looks awesome:happy:
and the whales(Orca) look cool!!!!:specool:
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Post by: dinwrest on October 15, 2006, 05:06:54 PM
Hold your horses zoocrazyman . The game is being shipped on Tuesday it will probably arrive Thursday-Sunday. Usually at EB I've noticed they get shipments Tuesdays and Thrusdays, so they may have it on Tuesday. Jsut don't count your chickens before they hatch . I'm gonna put a preorder on at Bestbuy in an hour or so to get first notice.
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Post by: MarineManiac on October 16, 2006, 06:46:15 AM
Actually I emailed them and it will not be in stores on the 17th unless or if they get that night some stores are really close, but it will on the 18th, which I believe is Wednesday.
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Post by: csleesburg on October 16, 2006, 08:42:24 AM
[modnotice=csleesburg]Alright, let's not start arguing about when it will/won't be there. It'll be there when it's there. No more discussion about this, please. If you get it, you may say so. [/modnotice]
Title: I cant wait
Post by: Lugger on October 16, 2006, 09:35:32 AM
i live in the uk
i cannot wait for MM to come out
the beluga was my fav animal in mm1 and in mm2 it looks GREAT
shame its not the same around the world
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Post by: KookyKoopa12 on October 17, 2006, 07:32:01 AM
Which animals are the show animals? I know about orca and bottlenose dolphin because I played the demo. But aren't there more? (I know for a fact they cannot be green sea turtle or rockhopper penguin because they're not show animals in the demo)
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Post by: zookeeper601 on October 17, 2006, 09:15:54 AM
According to Wikipedia MM page:

Quote from: Wikipedia
Animals:
[

we do not allow wikipedia as a source here.
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Post by: mikaboshi on October 17, 2006, 09:30:15 AM
Please do not use Wikipedia as a source of information, especially for such matters as this. The page can be edited by anyone so it often contains a lot of rumours.
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Post by: turtleman2351 on October 17, 2006, 09:55:16 AM
I thought I saw in a trailer that the pilot whale can also preform in shows.
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Post by: eye_of_the_tiger on October 17, 2006, 12:09:24 PM
i searched through zoopedia, and i believe it said that the sea otter, walrus, calafornia sealion, pilot whale, false killer whale, orca, bottlenose dolphin, and the beluga

these are all confirmed by the zoopedia in the mm2 demo.
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Post by: beagleboy21 on October 18, 2006, 08:35:40 AM
ok, all animals in this will be MARINE, hence the name, not freash water, becuase there is no freashwater in the game, just water.

We know. What was the point of that?
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Post by: zookeeper601 on October 18, 2006, 10:57:41 AM
Well from the screens, we know it is definitely the:

Sea Otter
Orca
Bottlenose Dolphin
California Sea Lion
Pacific Walrus
Beluga

that can perform in shows.
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Post by: eye_of_the_tiger on October 18, 2006, 01:56:47 PM
ok, not complaining, because this will not stop me from doing this anyways,
but are beluga shows realistic? i will still make them and love them, but it
just doesnt seem realistic. oh well, i will still enjoy the five cetacean species
shows.:cool:
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Post by: kiwibuddy on October 18, 2006, 02:42:05 PM
Yes actually. There used to be a beluga show at Seaworld San Diego way back when. However, the only problem is that belugas can't leap out of the water.
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Post by: eye_of_the_tiger on October 18, 2006, 05:36:00 PM
thanks kiwibuddy, i just didnt find it realistic.
but i am really looking forward to belugas regardless,
i had a magical experience with them at shedd aquarium.
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Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 18, 2006, 06:32:09 PM
I think BF should have put in a coelacanth and some other fish like moray eels and a bluefin tuna.
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Post by: eye_of_the_tiger on October 19, 2006, 03:59:53 AM
according to the zoopedia in the demo, there is a bluefin tuna as a live food that can be won by completing 2 marine challenges:cool:
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Post by: Birdman on October 19, 2006, 08:32:53 AM
COOL!!!!  MM2 is going to be good. Just got to wait....
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Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 19, 2006, 06:03:59 PM
Does it(Bluefin Tuna) swim around or is it just floating in the water?
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Post by: eye_of_the_tiger on October 20, 2006, 10:52:49 AM
it swims around, in some sort of pattern, i assume like the arctic cod.

im also retracting my previous statement about the beluga shows. they hardly get any air at all and it is very realistic. plus they squirt water.:smile:
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Post by: troodon135 on October 21, 2006, 07:50:19 AM
I guess I got my hopes up to much when wikipedia said there might be a spinosaurus. : :( :
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Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 21, 2006, 08:12:41 AM
Ummmmmmm isn't this about Marine Mania or did I miss something?????
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Post by: troodon135 on October 21, 2006, 10:49:46 AM
I know its marine mania. But thats what wikipedia said.:huh:I guess I wanted to belive there was going to be another dinosaur since dino danger only had four.
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Post by: eye_of_the_tiger on October 21, 2006, 08:00:44 PM
i remember seeing that, but i figured it was just a rumor because bf has been doing a pretty good job with keeping things inside the theme of the xps. what really made me suspicious of that is that it also said olive baboon.:huh:
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Post by: Simba on October 21, 2006, 11:47:14 PM
Quote from: eye_of_the_tiger;148092
ok, not complaining, because this will not stop me from doing this anyways,
but are beluga shows realistic? i will still make them and love them, but it
just doesnt seem realistic. oh well, i will still enjoy the five cetacean species
shows.:cool:


Hey don't Belugas Spyhop?? in real life that is!?? I saw a pic of a beluga spyhopping!
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Post by: mikaboshi on October 22, 2006, 12:23:00 AM
Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. As such, most of the time they include rumors and unreliable information. Please do not use Wikipedia information as "evidence" of anything.
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Post by: ZooTycoonLover782 on October 22, 2006, 01:55:41 AM
how much does MM cost?
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Post by: lizardlips on October 22, 2006, 09:07:51 AM
What are the campaign fame ratings that are required for each animal?
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Post by: zookeeper601 on October 22, 2006, 10:53:46 AM
What's the most expensive animal??? It's got to be something like great white or whale shark, maybe narwhal.
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Post by: RedNotDead on October 22, 2006, 11:04:14 AM
The Orca is the animal you get for a 5 star Zoo so that would make it the most expensive.
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Post by: eye_of_the_tiger on October 22, 2006, 12:00:42 PM
yeah, the orca is the most expensive, for 50,000 but there are 2 5 star animals. :suprise: the other is the great white shark, for 45,000
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Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 22, 2006, 12:23:22 PM
How long is the life span of the longest living animal in MM2?
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Post by: eye_of_the_tiger on October 22, 2006, 01:06:22 PM
i imagine its the sea turtle, but i dont know for sure.
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Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 22, 2006, 02:55:56 PM
I guess that's the best assumption.I would think so also.
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Post by: lizardlips on October 22, 2006, 04:29:17 PM
Quote from: eye_of_the_tiger;149447
yeah, the orca is the most expensive, for 50,000 but there are 2 5 star animals. :suprise: the other is the great white shark, for 45,000

Makes sense:thumbsup: What's the rating for a whale shark?
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Post by: eye_of_the_tiger on October 22, 2006, 05:48:44 PM
the whale shark is 4 1/2 stars and is probably in my top 5 favorite animals. i just love it. except for the biome, because a whale shark in benthic just looks wrong.:sick: i usually put it in reef, and it makes a nice combo exhibit with manta rays.
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Post by: Ouch on October 23, 2006, 01:09:21 AM
What are the ratings for each animal?
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Post by: eye_of_the_tiger on October 23, 2006, 06:35:57 AM
here, ill post the first half now, the second half later.

1/2 star-beluga and manta ray. (boy those really suprised me. i didnt expect either under 3 stars.
1 star-green seaturtle and blue marlin
1 1/2 stars-west indian manatee and calafornia sealion
2 stars-rockhopper penguin and short fin pilot whale
2 1/2 stars-sea otter and leatherback sea turtle
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Post by: Crookshankz227 on October 23, 2006, 07:05:08 AM
So the orca is the most expensive, but is low risk? Thanks for the star requirements!! All the sharks are only available at higher levels...
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Post by: eye_of_the_tiger on October 23, 2006, 09:24:03 AM
your welcome, here are the rest

3 stars-black tip reef shark and narwhal
3 1/2 stars-bottlenose dolphin and scalloped hammerhead
4 stars-false killer whale and goblin shark
4 1/2 stars-pacific walrus and whale shark
5 stars-great white shark and orca

i think its kind of neat that once you hit 3 stars, for every 1/2 star onwards you get one shark.:happy:
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Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 23, 2006, 06:21:49 PM
Sharks are awesome!!!!
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Post by: Bep-Boi on October 24, 2006, 06:24:13 AM
Quote from: MarineManiac;145790
MM2 is coming out:
U.S., October 17th, 2006
Europe, Ocotber 27th, 2006
Australia, November 7th, 2006


I pre-ordered mine and i get it on the 2nd of November. In the gameshops in my local area they all get the game on the exact day it comes out. But it's well worth the wait :thumbsup:

EDIT: Sorry, I just saw that Csleeseburg said not to talk about release dates.
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Post by: beagleboy21 on October 24, 2006, 11:06:16 AM
5 star for a orca?  well, it makes sense.  they are THE show animal.
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Post by: Birdman on October 24, 2006, 12:22:19 PM
Quote from: beagleboy21;150206
5 star for a orca?  well, it makes sense.  they are THE show animal.


You got that right.:wink:
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Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 24, 2006, 05:25:49 PM
Can white sharks perform in shows like they did in ZT1?(not that it made any sense to have a shark in a show, but it would be cool to see a shark breach in ZT2!!)
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Post by: eye_of_the_tiger on October 24, 2006, 06:07:17 PM
no, you cant really train a white shark, shows with them in zt1 were a bit impractical. i personally think sea otter shows are a bit on the edge, but i still love them.:wub:
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Post by: Kasatkasnumber1fan on November 04, 2006, 12:43:53 PM
Quote from: MarineManiac;143462
I would have replaced Pilot Whale( since none has ever been in captivity)


In fact, there are two Pilot Whales in SeaWorld San Diego - Bubbles and Shadow. I was just there.

http://images.google.com/images?q=pilot+whale+seaworld&svnum=10&hl=en&lr= (http://images.google.com/images?q=pilot+whale+seaworld&svnum=10&hl=en&lr=)
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Post by: MarineManiac on November 04, 2006, 12:50:38 PM
yeah, I know I found that a week ago, to check and see if there were any in captivity:laughing:
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Post by: Kasatkasnumber1fan on November 04, 2006, 01:38:16 PM
Oh, okay!: :P :
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Post by: MarineManiac on November 04, 2006, 01:48:16 PM
That's okay.  No biggie.
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Post by: spanish_zookeep on November 07, 2006, 12:21:50 PM
What can you tell me about bonus animals? Anyone discovered so far?

Thanks!
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Post by: MarineManiac on November 07, 2006, 12:33:17 PM
No there are no bonus animals in the game.  Sorry.
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Post by: turtleman2351 on November 11, 2006, 03:04:26 PM
The MM animal list is great. There are only two things I would change:

I think there is alot of sharks, and sense it is rare for a white shark in zoos, I think it would have been cool that instead of the white shark we could have had a Gulper Eel, as we have no eels or snakes. Its biome would've also been Bethnic.

Also, the FKW is alright, but we could have done without it. What I really missed was seals. It would have been really nice to have at least one true seal.  I think we should have had a Harp seal instead of the FKW sense we already have the Killer Whale itself, and Harp seals are famous for their cute pearl white babies.

Otherwise I love this expansion and think it is the best yet.

Edit: Also, sense there was no eels, I think a moray eel could've been included in the Tropical Fish Aquarium. But I can't complain.
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Post by: eye_of_the_tiger on November 15, 2006, 01:26:22 PM
i see what you mean, but there are a lot of kids and other people that love great whites that microsoft has to market to. plus, it is kind of educational to prove that great whites arent just man killers.
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Post by: turtleman2351 on November 16, 2006, 02:32:12 PM
Quote from: eye_of_the_tiger;157587
i see what you mean, but there are a lot of kids and other people that love great whites that microsoft has to market to. plus, it is kind of educational to prove that great whites arent just man killers.
I guess, but you've got to admit, a Gulper Eel would've been awsome!
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Post by: eye_of_the_tiger on November 16, 2006, 02:47:03 PM
yes, we couldve used a good eel. and if bf makes one, itll be moray or gulper, animals for biomes that we need more animals!!
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Post by: mikaboshi on November 16, 2006, 05:24:44 PM
Quote from: turtleman2351;156494

I think there is alot of sharks, and sense it is rare for a white shark in zoos, I think it would have been cool thath instaed of the white shark we could have had a Gulper Eel, as we have no eels or snakes.


Or maybe instead of the Goblin Shark which is incredibly rare to have in zoos and, frankly, its ugly, had the gulper or moray or something. I don't like sharks in the first place, and was disappointed that there were so many in this expansion. 25% of the animals we got were sharks!

And I too, think, some true seals would have been nice :happy:
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Post by: Zoocrazyman on November 16, 2006, 06:28:13 PM
I agree that the goblin shark was really random.I would have liked a gulper eel and some anglerfish as ambients.
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Post by: lonchura on November 17, 2006, 08:28:47 AM
true seals and another penguin would be good
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Post by: eye_of_the_tiger on November 17, 2006, 01:50:28 PM
i dont know about another penguin, but a true seal wouldve been nice cough(leopardseal)cough. and i think youre right about the goblin shark mika, but we needed something other than sharks for benthic. (personally, i dont think the whale shark should even be in benthic.
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Post by: Danezilla on November 19, 2006, 11:03:40 AM
Although I think this list of animals is cool, it could have been cooler. The Goblin Shark and False Killer whale aren't that well known, and the Pilot whale and the Beluga are too similar. I would have scrapped the Goblin Shark, False Orca and Pilot whale and replaced them with three of the following.

Minke Whale - Benthic
Humpback Whale - Benthic
Sperm Whale - Pelagic
Southern Elephant Seal - Coastal
Leopard Seal - Tundra
Hooded Seal - Tundra
South American Sea Lion - Coastal
Marine Iguana - Coastal
Tiger Shark - Benthic
Mako Shark - Benthic
Basking Shark - Tundra
Coelocanth - Pelagic
Conger Eel - Benthic
Stockeye Salmon - Coastal
Oarfish - Pelagic
Giant Grouper - Reef
Wolf-Fish - Benthic
Oceanic Sunfish - Benthic
Giant Squid - Pelagic
Any species of Octopus - Reef
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Post by: Zoocrazyman on November 19, 2006, 12:47:51 PM
I agree with the tiger shark,coelocanth,marine iguana,leopard seal,and the elephant seal.I think a sperm whale would be a little to large.Everything else should be either user-created,bonus downloads,or in a premimum download pack.
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Post by: sheltiefan on November 19, 2006, 05:56:40 PM
Remember this thread is for discussing animals which are in the game not for talking about animals you'd like there to have been. We have wishlist topics for that.
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Post by: MarineManiac on November 20, 2006, 06:11:21 AM
Actually the False Killer Whale is very well known, just as well known as the Beluga Whale.  They have False Killer Whales in SeaWorld Florida.
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Post by: Cuddly Panda on November 23, 2006, 12:56:15 AM
I personally think the great white shark should really be coastal/pelagic and the whale shark pelagic. A giant squid would so deeply dissapoint me (and a lot of other people, as Steve said), and it would DEFINATELY not be in pelagic. Benthic or nothing. i say the whole benthic biome and goblin shark shouldn't have been included, and instead a marine iguana for coastal.

I'm making a wishlist agin, aren't I? Oh well.

Overall, I think this is one covered MOST of the marine animals people wanted. I don't care if the pilot whale and beluga look similar - no offence, but does anyone complain about non-meshed user made downloads?
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Post by: Crookshankz227 on November 23, 2006, 01:47:14 AM
That's because a lot of users can't mesh, and they make their downloads for free. BF can and they charge us. If they gave me MM2 for free, I wouldn't complain. If they're going to charge me good money for it, they have to make it worth the purchase. I don't complain about free bonus downloads, and I think they're just marvelous, but I feel they should work harder on their expansions.

I think the goblin sharks should be smaller and pinker, because they are pink in reality. The whale sharks should also 'sieve' more often.

Can sea otters actually perform tricks?
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Post by: eye_of_the_tiger on November 28, 2006, 05:32:11 PM
yeah, kinda unrealistic, but yeah. super cute though.:wub:
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Post by: Cuddly Panda on December 03, 2006, 02:40:35 PM
But really for me there's just one think I HATE about Marine Mania - the crocodiles can't go underwater. Everything else I'm OK with.
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Post by: Tazzie-Tiger99 on December 10, 2006, 05:29:26 PM
is there a list of all the new ambients and if there isnt can someone post one??

also the crocs cant submerge:crying: :crying: <---- crocodile tears :woot:

ohhh that stinks what about the nile monitors probably not right

what animals can and cant submerge
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Post by: mikaboshi on December 10, 2006, 05:32:18 PM
I'm so glad I took time out to write up this list of Ambients (http://zoo.ogresnet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6695) in the game so that no one could ever use it. :lolol: Please use the search button, it will make your life so much easier.
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Post by: Tazzie-Tiger99 on December 10, 2006, 05:45:24 PM
srry for not using search again.... ugg force of habit

how come it seems the dolphins dont jump out of the water in their exibits??
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Post by: ZooLu on February 12, 2007, 05:52:31 AM

Although I think this list of animals is cool, it could have been cooler. The Goblin Shark and False Killer whale aren't that well known, and the Pilot whale and the Beluga are too similar. I would have scrapped the Goblin Shark, False Orca and Pilot whale and replaced them with three of the following.

Minke Whale - Benthic
Humpback Whale - Benthic
Sperm Whale - Pelagic
Southern Elephant Seal - Coastal
Leopard Seal - Tundra
Hooded Seal - Tundra
South American Sea Lion - Coastal
Marine Iguana - Coastal
Tiger Shark - Benthic
Mako Shark - Benthic
Basking Shark - Tundra
Coelocanth - Pelagic
Conger Eel - Benthic
Stockeye Salmon - Coastal
Oarfish - Pelagic
Giant Grouper - Reef
Wolf-Fish - Benthic
Oceanic Sunfish - Benthic
Giant Squid - Pelagic
Any species of Octopus - Reef


Hmm... where to begin... Ocean sunfish, Tiger shark, Basking shark and Humpback whale should be pelagic, Sperm whale, Coelocanth and Giant Squid should be benthic and Mako shark should be reef.  I'm not contradicting you, I'm just saying.