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Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: spanish_zookeep on November 15, 2006, 10:09:35 AM
Hi!

I have MM since last friday and I have a serious problem when I have to make a tank. It's not a problem making a plain tank, with no relief. I have even learned how to use tank walls to make land exhibits!

But I have a serious problem when I try to make a tank with underwater mountains, as seen in the second scenario of the campaign animal shows. It's with the biome tool? But you can't make it deep with that tool, can you??

I'm worry about that! Happy with any help!

Thanks!
Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: ShenTirag on November 15, 2006, 10:16:26 AM
You cannot edit the land in the bottom of the tank if it is surrounded completely with tank walls.  If you make it tank on three walls, and the fourth wall a normal fence, you can paint deep water inside the entire enclosure and edit the terrain in the bottomof the "tank".
Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: mikaboshi on November 15, 2006, 10:19:12 AM
Shen is correct. You can edit the bottom of a pool but not of a tank. That is, if you use the biome water tool to make a natural water exhibit, then you can edit the bottom of the exhibit, but once you use the tank walls for an exhibit, you loose that ability.
Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: eye_of_the_tiger on November 15, 2006, 01:29:29 PM
yeah, and im somewhat dissapointed about that.
you can make tanks deeper, but only as a whole.
Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: veg_wolf971 on November 29, 2006, 04:38:54 PM
I know! THat has SERIOUSLY bothered me. :character
Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: Crookshankz227 on November 29, 2006, 08:08:36 PM
You could make hybrid exhibits, then you'd be able to add relief to the exhibits.
Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: Alpha Dilophosaur on November 29, 2006, 09:11:30 PM
Yeah, I hope someone makes a hack or BF does something about that... It looks SO unnatural having a totally flat tank for an animal that lives in a usually mountain...y environment, like reef or benthic (that's the deep one, right...)
Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: Crookshankz227 on November 30, 2006, 07:47:56 AM
Not really - how many aquariums have you been to with mountainous tanks? Benthic would have some relief, but reefs are more or less flat.
Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: Alpha Dilophosaur on November 30, 2006, 08:18:55 AM
Actually, alot: The far sides of the tank are usually mountainous, as to make it look better. The shamu exhibit and beluga whale exhibit are mountainous as well. Some exhibits, though, like a manatee exhibit, would be completely flat
Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: samuelkurcab on November 30, 2006, 03:08:06 PM
Yo duh.:original:
Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: samuelkurcab on November 30, 2006, 03:10:03 PM
Quote from: Alpha Dilophosaur;161819
Actually, alot: The far sides of the tank are usually mountainous, as to make it look better. The shamu exhibit and beluga whale exhibit are mountainous as well. Some exhibits, though, like a manatee exhibit, would be completely flat



What's a shamu?

Thanxxxx.
Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: mikaboshi on November 30, 2006, 03:21:08 PM
"Shamu" is the name of a famous Killer Whale (Orca) at Sea World
Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: Panda King on November 30, 2006, 05:19:47 PM
Yeah, 90% of maine exhibits I'v seen have some releif in them...
Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: veg_wolf971 on December 01, 2006, 06:42:30 PM
Quote from: samuelkurcab;161884
What's a shamu?

Thanxxxx.


Shamu is a super-famous killer whale (or orca) that is now the icon of SeaWorld. The REAL Shamu sadly died many years ago, but if you are reffuring to an orca at SeaWorld you would generelly call him or her "Shamu:

   :flipper: (Yah, I know it's not a whale but...) :whistling
Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: shecrock on December 18, 2006, 12:23:37 AM
Shamu Is A  killer whale.You can see them at many of the See world zoo's .
Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: aquariumboy on December 18, 2006, 08:33:43 AM
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Not really - how many aquariums have you been to with mountainous tanks? Benthic would have some relief, but reefs are more or less flat.

actually i think they should have made it edit-able with hills and underwater streams
becuse the hills can be made to look like rocks (which in the ocean there are alot of)
in the ocean there are rarely any hills that stay they will always level out sometime or another. if you need an example just look at a fish tank (with some farely big fish)
and mess it up really bad be making a giant hill. in time as the water current from the fish swiming and the filter...filtering?:P the big hill will come down to cover the whole tank.

i think bf did great on the zt series but i think lately the last few games they put out
have the signs of being rushed i think they could have just as easly put the hills and stuff in the tanks and they could have made the bottems of the tanks edit-able instead of just adding a whole tanks worth of grass in one click. but thats just my option.
maybe there planing to realess a new zt3 or something that has the bug fixes and everything that was left out from zt1-2 who knows.
Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: seaworldgurl1 on December 19, 2006, 07:24:41 PM
u cannot change the releif in tanks but only in pools of water. but if you want it to appear u have releif on your tanks, make a hybird exhibit( use tutorial on how to do it and do the first one it shows you) then u can change the relief in the "tank" with the landscaping tools. hope that helps! ;0)
Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: Simba on December 27, 2006, 06:21:02 AM
I think BF purposely did that because they want the tanks to be looking artificial as they are. The tanks I've seen have their bottoms flat and neat!
Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: seaworldgurl1 on December 29, 2006, 06:35:01 PM
idk...ive seen alot of tanks w/ releif! i guess simba has a point with making it look artificial. its just rlly hard to make a hybird exhbit!! i also wish you didn't have to lower the path in front of the tank!

:flipper:
Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: Packraptor on December 29, 2006, 06:38:20 PM
You could always just elevate the land inside the tank, then paint deep water with the biome brush, and change elevation in that. That way, you don't have to lower the path at all.
Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: seaworldgurl1 on December 31, 2006, 03:14:29 PM
omg...GREAT IDEA!! it worked!! thanx sooo much!!
Title: Relief Tanks?
Post by: Packraptor on December 31, 2006, 03:31:02 PM
You're welcome. I just finished a hammerhead exhibit by doing that. They're my favorites.
Title: Re: Relief Tanks?
Post by: Chimpinater on March 02, 2007, 04:37:57 PM
I love it withgreat whites :D