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Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Texgnome1 on October 03, 2006, 12:53:13 PM
One thread only - want to have an easy list.  Please search through the thread before you post.  Go ahead and list anything that you have found in the demo.  We can always reconfirm if it is still an issue once the set hits stores.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Megaraptor on October 03, 2006, 01:51:46 PM
I've got one i just noticed-
When i deleted a section of a tank wall, the water drained, like normal. This caused the Orca being held in the tank to be transfered to a crate. I was able to delete the crate, which allowed to orca to actually swim halfway in the ground. After a few seconds, it beached.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: csleesburg on October 03, 2006, 01:55:07 PM
Quote from: Megaraptor
I've got one i just noticed-
When i deleted a section of a tank wall, the water drained, like normal. This caused the Orca being held in the tank to be transfered to a crate. I was able to delete the crate, which allowed to orca to actually swim halfway in the ground. After a few seconds, it beached.

That's not a bug, really, Megaraptor. That's what WOULD happen if a marine animal was suddenly taken out of its crate and 'dumped' on land. They flop around and then beach themselves and die. Not very nice, actually. Just pick them up and put the crate back in the water.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Megaraptor on October 03, 2006, 02:01:39 PM
It didn't flop around and die. It swam around. I'll get you a pick if you want.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: world on October 03, 2006, 02:03:34 PM
Sometimes my rockhopper penguins will walk on there side.Theyll have the same motions that theyd have if they were walking normally,but the just on their side
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: WolfXQueen on October 03, 2006, 02:44:09 PM
Quote from: world
Sometimes my rockhopper penguins will walk on there side.Theyll have the same motions that theyd have if they were walking normally,but the just on their side


Yeah, the rockhopper penguins have SO many glitches!! They walk around on their side, walk through the rock float, et cetera.

One glitch I had was that orcas would always get stuck in the show tank. I had three. They'd come in fine, do their show, then they'd just swim around for a minute in front of the open gate till it closed. One of the orcas even floats about 10 feet above the water then slowly floats back down. Then they'd just swim around till I noticed or got crated by a zookeeper.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: amkid247 on October 03, 2006, 03:32:57 PM
without another peice of actual land in the exibit the penguins feet are sunken into the ground of the rock island.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: world on October 03, 2006, 05:20:40 PM
I had the same glitch as WolfXQueen,just theyd either get stuck and couldnt go into the show tank,causing the show to get cancelled.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: RedNotDead on October 03, 2006, 11:32:38 PM
rockhoppers eggs say tundra and their fun facts say bottle-nosed dophin.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Crookshankz227 on October 04, 2006, 01:39:41 AM
The ambients will actually swim right through the desert island/rock bed if you have shallow enough water.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: WackyPanda on October 04, 2006, 05:59:38 AM
Once I got a few reports that my rockhopper penguin was not contained. When I checked, it seemed pretty contained to me.

Another thing is that the green turtles try to lay their eggs on the desert island, but the eggs sink through to the bottom. They still hatch, though.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Ethiopian Wolf on October 04, 2006, 02:50:26 PM
Thats the way it really is, WackyPanda. Turtles bury their eggs.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Bjrichards on October 04, 2006, 02:53:56 PM
I know what he means, When they laid their eggs on the Island they sunk thru the entire island and got stuck in the bottom of the pool. Ive had this happen.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: nrg800 on October 04, 2006, 03:04:40 PM
When you've got shallow enough water the penguin egg is hovers above the water.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Army Kid on October 04, 2006, 04:42:40 PM
Yeah, the rockhopper penguins are so glitchy. They walk almost upside-down for me!

Also, I've had the same glitch where the turtles lay their eggs on the desert island, but they appear on the bottom.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Skid 32 on October 04, 2006, 07:42:58 PM
Hasn't anyone even noticed that you can place working tank portals between tanks with different water levels in them? I really don't want to be next to the opening when that door is used. :raft: :whistling
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: amkid247 on October 05, 2006, 01:56:12 PM
this is what happens when u lower the ground outside of a tank after you place a ladder: http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/1347/aaaaanm0.png
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Crookshankz227 on October 05, 2006, 09:23:45 PM
Even when an orca is fully trained, it still doesn't seem to skyhop properly - all it does is go up and wiggle its tail.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Simba on October 06, 2006, 05:16:28 AM
Wait, wait, now That's because you have done some abt 5 trainings right! The orca if it gets like 65 % It'll only do the wiggling tail stuff, If you get 91% and above only it does the whole thing! Now you might have got 100% or 95...% in some of the trainings, but got only 90 and lesser in the other trainings, lets say Tr 5 or 4. Now When Your creating the show and add an animal, Orca in this case, in the side You gotta choose what act ya want it to do! There are only two now in the demo, but if you place your cursor (when selecting the act) on the button in the side, i.e, if ya've completed all the trainings it'd be extended to 1, 2, 3, 4, 5..(it depends on how many trainings you've completed) Now you must've clicked no.4 or 5(eg) So it does howmuchever it did in the 4 training, so I don't think that's a bug! If ya want your orca to do properly click the training no. in which ya have scored above 91%! Amkid my water from outside the tank will always look fully like that only, whereas you've got only a little area where it wd be like that, it depends on the graphics card maybe!
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Crookshankz227 on October 06, 2006, 06:43:20 AM
Oh - thanks, I hadn't selected anything... *runs off to try it*

Edit: Sorry, but you can't seem to choose which training to perform. :wacko:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Simba on October 06, 2006, 11:49:02 PM
You have to complete more than one to choose between them! If you place your cursor on the icon it extends to 1, 2!
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: snake_hunter2005 on October 07, 2006, 06:26:16 PM
i noticed when i have land AND the island thing a message would say that there is no land for the turtles to lay there eggs.....it gets frustrating after a while when i have to keep placing the turtles on land.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: nrg800 on October 07, 2006, 06:40:09 PM
Heres a big bug, I had the MM2 demo for about a week and it made my ZT2 crash when I opened it.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Crookshankz227 on October 07, 2006, 08:03:59 PM
I don't think that's a big - the files and folders are completely separate, so I think it's probably something wrong with your ZT2, like a new download or something.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: nrg800 on October 07, 2006, 08:08:58 PM
Yeh it's not that big I've got all my downloads on a CD on the other hand I can't reinstall ES.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: lizardlips on October 08, 2006, 02:13:48 PM
The rockhopper penguin information bar says vulnerable UNLESS you look at the profile of an already purchased individual penguin, if you know what I mean. Then it says Lower Risk.

Also, I'm not sure if this is a glitch or if it's normal (looking at some other peoples screens I'm a little confused.) The walls of my tanks are completely clear from both sides.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: GoneWild on October 08, 2006, 02:34:26 PM
I just checked the demo and on mine the penguins have penguin facts the dolphins have dolphin facts, the penguin say low risk on both.
 The bugs I have notice is the ladder one and the penguin egg one and the one with turtles not reconizing land except for the desert island and the eggs go right through it.
 Also Simba I understand what you're saying but I think the more training on a certain trick you do the better chance for them doing it better in the show.  Lizardlips are you talking about how on some peoples pic there was like a solid wall on the outside of the tank?  If you are that is one of the walls you can pick, like in zt2 the brick wall is solid and the brick with windows you can see through.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 08, 2006, 02:38:58 PM
Quote from: Army Kid;143916
Yeah, the rockhopper penguins are so glitchy. They walk almost upside-down for me!

Also, I've had the same glitch where the turtles lay their eggs on the desert island, but they appear on the bottom.


If you think about it, there is alot of graphics used and more complicated it gets the more problems you have.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: lizardlips on October 09, 2006, 07:43:21 PM
Quote from: GoneWild;145088
Lizardlips are you talking about how on some peoples pic there was like a solid wall on the outside of the tank?  If you are that is one of the walls you can pick, like in zt2 the brick wall is solid and the brick with windows you can see through.

I'm talking about having the see through walls completely see through without any tinting. I know about the other wall.

Sorry! I misphrased before! In the ZOOPEDIA is says vulnerable, but in the other places it says LR.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: wolfkid92 on October 11, 2006, 12:51:51 PM
does the narwhals tail go through the tank walls when it collides with them?, you know like how the T Rex's tail manages to go through fences.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Bigheads96 on October 11, 2006, 01:29:57 PM
The only bugs that I've ever gotton with ANY game are flying above water and sliding every once in a while. But I don't care. I have a brand new graphics card and that is what probably helps a lot.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Nettie on October 12, 2006, 11:48:10 AM
i particularly liked the hip-pack with the orca on it (gift from cart) that flew around in the air on it's side...  no one connected to it or anything, it just flew around...  and when you paused it still moved but Very slowly. lol


[modnotice=RedNotDead]Changed the word to a more  correct version [/modnotice]
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: eye_of_the_tiger on October 16, 2006, 03:36:42 PM
the game seems relatively glitch free in my experience, with one exception.
i was going by my dolphin tank, and i noticed my lionfish ambients were hovering
over the tank, swimming like they normally would, about 20 feet above the tank. :blink:
i paused it to get a closer look. when i unpaused it they dissapeared. :suprise:


oh, and i never get varients for my male turtles, even after placing 80 males. is that just mine, or what.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Simba on October 19, 2006, 05:18:41 AM
Quote from: wolfkid92;145733
does the narwhals tail go through the tank walls when it collides with them?, you know like how the T Rex's tail manages to go through fences.


Why is it specifically Narwhal???
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: wolfkid92 on October 19, 2006, 12:55:19 PM
i meant the tusk
Title: MM2 Patch
Post by: willoughby on October 19, 2006, 01:18:11 PM
I just got Marine Mania and I am impressed. Thanks Blue Fang for this great expansion but I have noticed some very annoying glithces.
1. The Walrus and probably more animals have their flippers and tusks go throught the ground as they walk, also you can see a shadow of the missing parts. The Striped Hyeana (sp?) has the same problem with its tail since AA.
2. There are no little blades of grass or peppbles for the Coastal Biome.
3. Even on land everything has a wavy underwater shadow.
4. This has actually stopped me from playing the game: Most of the land plants are in a permanent shadow as soon as you place them. Sometimes I even get a Boabob Tree with a green tint all over.
5. The problem with shelters in AA with animals using shelters that make no sense. The Striped Hyeana using a Boreal Burrow for example.
6. There is no music rock to play the AA or MM theme. There are also no Marine theme buildings and the unlockable Marine Entrance and Zoo wall are gone from the list of awards.


I know that 6,2 are not really glithces but they also are kind of annoying. This topic shall be to discuss other problems that could be fixed in a patch. But still Thank you for this great expansion in the first place Blue Fang.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: RedNotDead on October 19, 2006, 01:26:23 PM
as we already ahve a topic on bugs this is merged
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on October 19, 2006, 04:12:20 PM
I can't get the install to work.  I had everything installed before (ZT2, ES, AA, DD and the Addax) and I tried to install marine mania on top of it.  It went through the install, brought me to the "Accept Terms" screen and now it won't load.  I've uninstalled it and reinstalled several times - deleting the registry, trying different install procedures and nothing works.

Also of note, whenever I put the African Adventure disc in my Disc drive now it pulls up the Marine Mania icon and when I try to install African Adventure all it will do is uninstall.  

This is incredibly frustrating and shouldn't happen for releases like this.  They beta tested it, and even installing the beta was a big hassel - To me, it doesn't seem like they fixed much because I can't even get into the game.  Can someone please help me.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Wild One on October 19, 2006, 05:29:12 PM
I have a bug in this game where I can't walk around in guest mode since installing Marine Mania 2. :huh: This is really irritating me.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on October 19, 2006, 07:56:27 PM
The big issue now seems to be with African Adventure and possibly Dino Digs.  Marine Mania works if I just install that without any other expansions.  The problem was, it didn't change the link on the desktop to the appropriate file.  However, when I try to install Dino Digs again I can't open a game, it crashes the computer.  With African Adventure I can't even get that far.  I click install on the menu, and it brings me to an uninstall screen.  I've uninstalled the complete game, gone through the registry and eliminated any files i thought were related (by searching for zoo and z2).  I've even gone back and restored my system to a date prior to installing marine mania.  Nothing has worked.  I really hope someone else has the same problem and can help me figure out a solution.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: RedNotDead on October 19, 2006, 11:34:02 PM
maybe try what worked for the beta - which means install in this order

ZT2
DD
ES
AA
MM2


this worked for me when beta testing - i know thatpeopel had problems with DD and the MM2 beta but we were promised it would work.  
theother thing to do is also make sure you are doing a clean install if you have modified any game files.  Also backup the optionsfile and any saved games as well and photos
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on October 20, 2006, 04:48:24 AM
Quote from: RedNotDead;148538
maybe try what worked for the beta - which means install in this order

ZT2
DD
ES
AA
MM2


this worked for me when beta testing - i know thatpeopel had problems with DD and the MM2 beta but we were promised it would work.  
theother thing to do is also make sure you are doing a clean install if you have modified any game files.  Also backup the optionsfile and any saved games as well and photos


I've tried all that - I've completely removed the game from the system.  I've gone through the registry and removed stuff there as well.  Part of the problem is that African Adventure now thinks that the game is installed no matter what, and I can't install it again.  When I try to install African Adventure it brings me right to the uninstall screen with the "removed save games" option checked.  It's really weird, and I'd probably need the help of someone who knows how to thoroughly clean the registry of this game.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: mikaboshi on October 20, 2006, 04:52:01 AM
Have you tried (and forgive me, I am just trying to cover all bases, don't think I am insulting you by saying something like this) going through Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel? It won't uninstall correctly sometimes if you don't do it that route.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: RedNotDead on October 20, 2006, 07:24:10 AM
i also use CC resitry cleaner after unistalling games (which i did when i had the same problem with AA keep unistalling itself) and it worked fine - so basically i uninstalled all the games ran the registry cleaner then installed in teh order above and got the games all installed correctly.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: willoughby on October 20, 2006, 10:58:51 AM
Does anyone else have the problem with the plants being just down right freaky looking? I really would like to no if this is normal of if its my graphics card. Thanks in advance.

PS. I'm not sure if this is a glitch but a placed Tussac Grass on a reef map and it was green but then I placed some in a Benthic Map and it was brown:blink: and I couldn't get the other color so I don't think its a variant. Also Male Sea Turtles don't use the variants, only females. And I downloaded ST's Asiactic Black Bear and the icon fix but I can't remove them even after deleting the files and it makes show animals have no icon but leaves the others with the little sea shell. Could someone please help? It feels like I'm playing the beta and not the final version.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Snowstalker on October 20, 2006, 02:00:24 PM
I've installed the entire XP, amd it says so. But when I click Play, nothing happens. I tried deleting old, useless stuff, and I restarted it. I even did as RND instructed, but still nothing.

EDIT: I waited for a few hours, and it worked. Maybe my compy needed a rest. :P
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: mikaboshi on October 20, 2006, 03:38:23 PM
The tussac grass probably reacts differently in the Benthic because their isn't as much oxygen in that biome as there is in Reef...maybe its programmed to be a different color in the different biomes. Some of the plants do have varients though, from what I understand.

The icon fix probably doesn't work because it was made for AA, not MM2. Try searching as there is a topic somewhere that has instructions of how to remove the files yourself. You probably just missed something.

I don't know what to tell you Snowstalker. Is the disc in the drive? And I know that the beta was 2 discs, and if the XP is the same way, then perhaps you don't have the right disc in.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: csleesburg on October 20, 2006, 05:11:51 PM
Before I even tried installing my MM, I used Add/Remove programs to remove my ZT2. Then, I installed in the order they came out: ZT2, ES, AA, MM. After that, I put back my downloaded stuff, including STC's icon fix. Everything works fine for me. I see STC's icons, plus the AA and MM ones. It may be the order of things you have to follow?
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: willoughby on October 20, 2006, 08:06:26 PM
MM2 is not working whatsoever. I just had to uninstall everything again... I won't be playing it anymore until a patch is realsed. I don't want to sound hatefull and I'm really greatfull of BF for making this but Marine Mania is the worst expansion ever, without all the bugs it would be the best. So please realese a patch. Sorry if this is Off Topic, but is does have to do with bugs, and I just had to let this out somewhere.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: tazlover on October 20, 2006, 09:55:24 PM
Quote from: AnimalKingdom;148587
Part of the problem is that African Adventure now thinks that the game is installed no matter what, and I can't install it again.  When I try to install African Adventure it brings me right to the uninstall screen with the "removed save games" option checked.
This was noticed during the beta testing, and I personally think this is a glitch with AA.  

Have you tried letting the game uninstall with the AA disc then reinstall again?  Doing that seemed to help many people during the beta, myself included.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: mintralcat on October 21, 2006, 10:18:35 AM
i got mm2
and it wont close properly, i have to restart the computor to get it to close , can anyone help?: :( :
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on October 21, 2006, 11:30:17 AM
I was able to clean the registry by searching for all files that contained, "zoo", "zt2", and "africa" and then deleting those that i felt were related to zoo tycoon.  

This is a huge problem for the franchise.  Instead of fixing the bugs in the previous expansions, they churn out new expansions that are also bug ridden.  When the game can't even install properly it shows that they didn't really use the beta correctly.  I know this was a problem with the beta - and it wasn't rectified.  I would think the proper installation of the game would be something that was solved before even the beta was released.  This is a horrible example of releasing a game long before it was ready.  

With that tirade off my chest, it looks like it wasn't all bad - once I spent 8 hours trying to get the game installed, I noticed that the gigantic animals bug was fixed, and it seems they did make it so that guests no longer got into exhibits (so far).

Some things that were discussed in the beta that weren't rectified are as follows:
1. Tank fences on all animals, not just marine ones: Now they got rid of the tank fences for the zookeeper recommendations on animals that should be able to use them in hybrid exhibits like Hippos, Polar Bears, Emperor Penguins, etc.

2. The ordering of animals in the checklist.  This wasn't fixed at all... animals were previously order alphabetically with the females, males, young females and males displayed in that order.  Now there are discrepencies and it's annoying when you are trying to thin out a species and they're not all together.

3. Game lags - It's even worse than before.

I don't intend for this to be offensive or bashing Blue Fang, but this is really unacceptable.  Blue Fang, stop what you're doing now and make a fix all bug.  Do whatever it takes to make this series a success - it has so much promise, but hasn't taken off because of the problems with it.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: csleesburg on October 21, 2006, 12:28:34 PM
Quote from: AnimalKingdom;149022
3. Game lags - It's even worse than before.

I don't intend for this to be offensive or bashing Blue Fang, but this is really unacceptable.  Blue Fang, stop what you're doing now and make a fix all bug.  Do whatever it takes to make this series a success - it has so much promise, but hasn't taken off because of the problems with it.

I think there are many things that cause bugs in one particular game. It's not the game iself (because I don't have them). It has to do with many things, like your particular computer, what else you have on there, do you play windowed or full screen, how many downloads you have, and other things. I truly don't think it's BF and/or MS that causes these, because if it WERE a game bug, everyone would have it/them. I think the problems are just things you have to figure out how to work around, is all. :juggle:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Megaraptor on October 21, 2006, 01:09:00 PM
Csleesburg is right. THose should be occuring to everyone. But seeing how they aren't, it probably has to do with you own computer or downloads on it. I've only witnessed two bugs, and they seem to only be with a specific map.

If there is a patch, it should lengthen the life-span of the Koi, Fix the Viewing Canopies so that they don't go through tank walls or fences, and some glitches involving Tanks and Paths.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: willoughby on October 21, 2006, 01:20:42 PM
Please someone tell me if they are having these problems too. The trees and plants are grayish now and their preview image is bright white for most trees and plants and the tussac grass, kelp, and the tiny seaweed (forgot the name) But ones whos preview is a normal color they are the right color in game. Also it is more laggy then when I just had ZT2, ES, AA, and DD. I get a message saying my graphics card made to old to run it but the graphics card is the right type for the game. Also it won't work at all sometimes and I had to unistall everything and got rid of all my pictures and saved games when I told it not to. I also have no hacks or user created downloads (they were all deleted when I unistalled it.) Should I try installing it again? And does anyone else have these problems? If so please tell me what might be able to fix these.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 21, 2006, 01:36:03 PM
Does your computer have the right graphics and memory chips to play ZT2?
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: willoughby on October 21, 2006, 01:39:37 PM
All the system requirments are right.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Wild One on October 21, 2006, 02:44:39 PM
Since installing Marine Mania 2, I can't walk around in zoo guest mode, or in photo safari mode, this is really irritating me. This is what I wanted to do the most since getting Marine Mania 2!
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 21, 2006, 03:36:05 PM
Hmmmmmmm.......I wonder, did you install all right files or Complete installtion of ZT2
because this has never happened to me.In fact I've never had any glitches happen to me.I also bought all my games in between 6months-1 year after they came out.All I can really say is that there is something wrong with the game,computer, or somethin g went wrong during installtion.Try starting from block one and go step by step.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: tazlover on October 21, 2006, 08:51:15 PM
Willoughby - have you tried updating your graphics card driver?

WildOne - I have MM2 installed and have no problem walking around in guest mode.  It sounds like this is specific to your computer.  It could be a few things - UCI/hack conflict, old graphics card driver or a bad install.  I would try these steps in order: remove any UCI's and hacks, update the driver for your graphics card and if neither of those works, reinstall the game.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: ndmpatriot on October 21, 2006, 11:21:27 PM
Quote from: AnimalKingdom;148587
I've tried all that - I've completely removed the game from the system.  I've gone through the registry and removed stuff there as well.  Part of the problem is that African Adventure now thinks that the game is installed no matter what, and I can't install it again.  When I try to install African Adventure it brings me right to the uninstall screen with the "removed save games" option checked.  It's really weird, and I'd probably need the help of someone who knows how to thoroughly clean the registry of this game.


That's the problem I had after uninstalling the Beta. MS couldn't even figure it out. I still can't figure it out. I tried searching the registry for the terms "zoo", "zt2" and "africa" and it said it found nothing except for an african language file. Any help is appreciated. Unless I'm searching it wrong??
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Simba on October 21, 2006, 11:40:55 PM
Quote from: willoughby;149036
I get a message saying my graphics card made to old to run it but the graphics card is the right type for the game.


My friend had this same prob, but it's not heck of a prob though....He has 128mb graphics card and it's a new one and still it said the graphics card was too old, with the demo itself, I just clicked 'continue' and everything was Perfect!
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on October 22, 2006, 05:19:50 AM
Quote from: Megaraptor;149034
Csleesburg is right. THose should be occuring to everyone. But seeing how they aren't, it probably has to do with you own computer or downloads on it. I've only witnessed two bugs, and they seem to only be with a specific map.

If there is a patch, it should lengthen the life-span of the Koi, Fix the Viewing Canopies so that they don't go through tank walls or fences, and some glitches involving Tanks and Paths.


The delibrately changed the viewing canopies to be on the map size that it's on I believe (so that they don't go through the tank walls).  I don't know what you mean by the "life-span of the Koi".

I have done a clean install of the game, and the order that the animals appeared in the "animals in your zoo" screen hasn't been exactly perfect.  Here's what I have installed for non-Blue Fang content
sell animals hack (The easily removable one)
max guests up to 480 (not easily removable)
The problem seems to be more with the Marine Mania animals though - so it doesn't make sense how these two hacks are affecting it.  
As for my PC being the problem - I recognize that it's possible for things like lag (I'm also guessing that the 480 guests has something to do with that), but I have a 128 mb Radeon 9600 Graphics card, 1024 mb ram, and a 1.6 gHz processor
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: ALIEN=REAL on October 22, 2006, 07:08:02 AM
I have the release version and these are the bugs I noticed:
(*means it happened more than once)
1.Animal being suddenly outside tank halfway in ground
2.*Animal sudden crated
3.*Going through tank walls in guest mode
4.*Awards panel not fully loaded
5.Worst of all a crate suddenly on path from nowhere with no name and when you use zookeeper recommendations the name is %text% and when you uncrate it the game will crash.

BLUEFANG MAKE A PATCH!
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: RedNotDead on October 22, 2006, 07:16:42 AM
the last one seems like a hack/user content conflict  I used to get that a lot with some user contest - animals would ahve no name just blank spaces.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: dinwrest on October 22, 2006, 09:27:08 AM
I've noticed one , mildly funny bug. With the addition of the lanscaping underwater you can now make trees float! I tried making a koi pond with a wetalnds tree in the center and to my surprise you can landscape under the trees and the trees act as if there is ground. I believe you can also go under the trees.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: ALIEN=REAL on October 22, 2006, 12:30:53 PM
Quote from: RedNotDead;149319
the last one seems like a hack/user content conflict  I used to get that a lot with some user contest - animals would ahve no name just blank spaces.


I have no user content or hacks in my game
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: orcawhale212 on October 22, 2006, 01:17:55 PM
My animals will not uncrate. I tried completely removing everything and reinstalling and they still will not uncrate. I click on the uncrate button and nothing happens.

Also I am playing the first campaign in the Marnine animals group and it is not crediting the animals towards completing the goals.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: willoughby on October 22, 2006, 02:28:03 PM
I installed the game on my little brother's laptop which is newer and I haven't expirenced a single major glitch yet. So in other words the box has the system requirments wrong.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 22, 2006, 02:57:06 PM
thats what I thought to.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on October 22, 2006, 03:48:53 PM
Has anyone else had the problem with animals not alphabatizing correctly on the zoo roster screen?
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: GoneWild on October 22, 2006, 04:06:29 PM
the major bug I have found is that orca aren't able to go from show to regular tanks.  they go in fine but can't go back.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: andypvera on October 22, 2006, 07:20:45 PM
i have really noticed this 2 as gonewild said they stay in the show tank but after a while they get put on a crate
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on October 22, 2006, 07:39:22 PM
This is what I'm talking about with animals not ordering correctly:
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9121/zoo1uw4.jpg
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/9786/zoo2km8.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9858/zoo3wd3.jpg
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/9809/zoo4mq5.jpg

Notice how animal groups are broken up - i'm a little nervous to do a full uninstall, because it took me so long to get it working in the first place.  I've removed the sell animals hack, so now it's just the old guestMgr file that gets your max guests up to 480, that i've manually put into the appropriate z2f files.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: germanwolf on October 22, 2006, 08:58:09 PM
I don't really know if this is a 'bug', but the money cheat doesn't work anymore! I was going to do one of the new MM2 scenarios, and was going to raise the money, but it won't let you do that at anymore. I they really want you to 'work' for the extra stuff. :innocent:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: tazlover on October 22, 2006, 10:21:05 PM
The money cheat was an original bug that was fixed with MM2.  The beta testers found out it was going to be fixed during testing. We tried toget M$/BF to leave it in but they wouldn't.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: eye_of_the_tiger on October 23, 2006, 06:31:59 AM
this is minor, but i have unlocked the tv and the tuna,(theyre awesome!) but in the persistent awards section it shows that i have done no challenges. it really is minor, but it takes away from that sense of self satisfaction.:rolleyes:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: ALIEN=REAL on October 23, 2006, 07:11:03 AM
Quote from: eye_of_the_tiger;149720
this is minor, but i have unlocked the tv and the tuna,(theyre awesome!) but in the persistent awards section it shows that i have done no challenges.QUOTE]

mine used to say I did the challenges but doesn't anymore. Weird

Anyway,this is also minor, but for some odd reason the donation boxes in the scenery panel change order
Title: Are these bugs? How can i fix them?
Post by: Azrael2110 on October 23, 2006, 09:25:54 AM
Hi guys. I've been playing ZT2 for 1 month and have all the expansions (ES+AA+MM). While playing I realize some bugs which are very annoying but I dont know how to fix them :crying: . Can u guy help?

1. A lot of food and drink in the exhibit and they're NOT near the fence . But animals keep shouting out they're hungry and thirsty :elvis: .

2. Animals keep disappearing (yes, disappear). I means there's no message such as they are killed or died of old age or not contained. Just simply disappear.

3. The list of animals in the zoo, when sorted by type, gets messed up. For example I have 4 lions and 4 tigers, then I sort by type and the result: Lion 1 - Lion 2 - Tiger 1 - Tiger 2 - Lion 3 - Lion 4 - ...

4. A lot of bench (and I'm sure they're "sit-able", but guests keep complain "guests need more place to rest" :pinch:

5. Window fence, but when guests pass the exhibits, they say "I can't see any animals from here" :wacko:

Can anyone help me? Cuz these bugs are really annoying and I dont know what to do with them :crying:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: RedNotDead on October 23, 2006, 09:31:24 AM
merged with existing topic pelase read the forums and use the search buttons before posting to see if there is an existing topic.


as for your list only no 3 is a real bug so far.  the guests have always complained about the benches, guests can only see so far into exhibits so if the animals are tooo far away the guests cant see them.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Spider Monkey on October 23, 2006, 12:41:26 PM
When you click on a guest to look at their inventory, t-shirts do not show up.  (They did before, didn't they?)

Not just rockhoppers, but Emperor penguins walk sideways, especially on the rock island.  Looks bad.

Guests walk right through the touch pool.  

The only way I could get ZT2 to run after installing MM was to restart, hit ctrl-alt-del, and kill all non-critical processes, like AIM.  My computer exceeds the system requirements listed on the box.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on October 23, 2006, 03:33:24 PM
Quote from: Azrael2110;149776

3. The list of animals in the zoo, when sorted by type, gets messed up. For example I have 4 lions and 4 tigers, then I sort by type and the result: Lion 1 - Lion 2 - Tiger 1 - Tiger 2 - Lion 3 - Lion 4 - ...

Can anyone help me? Cuz these bugs are really annoying and I dont know what to do with them :crying:


I have the same problem with the animals not ordering themselves properly.  Do you have any user made content?
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: lf11 on October 24, 2006, 01:52:36 AM
My animals are also not listed the way they should be in the list.
My penguins walk sideways on the floating rock too.
I have noticed a couple problems with the manatees, I had one today that was halfway out of the tank, right before a baby manatee becomes an adult it appears outside of the tank and on the ground. I do not get any messages about it not being contained or that it is unhappy. This has happend twice on different campaigns. Wonder what would have happened if I hadn't noticed it laying there?
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on October 24, 2006, 04:54:32 AM
A smaller thing, but you can work around it is construction of hybrid tanks with flat ground next a tank wall.  It's tough to get the ground level enough with the wall to make it work (also, animals seem to climb through the wall because the water level is lower than the wall itself).  The best way to do this for me is to raise the tank wall, level the terrain next to it, and then lower the tank wall so it's flush with the terrain.

The ordering of the animals needs to be fixed, not grouping similiar animals together is incredibly annoying.  Also, while they're at it, they should make it so the Masai Giraffe is alphabetically before the Reticulated Giraffe - in the game files, the reticulated giraffe is just listed as "Giraffe", so it doesn't order properly.

One thing that I have seen as an improvement, is that less guests are finding their way into exhibits - I don't think I've had one case of that yet.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: andypvera on October 24, 2006, 07:25:49 AM
ok i have a lot of problems here with MM2. I can't clean the water exhibits even with the filters, animals get out of their exhibits and beach themselves on land and die, or they get so mad without their basic or advanced needs being up red. Can someone tell me what to do so i can solve the problem
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: mikaboshi on October 24, 2006, 08:03:15 AM
You can manually clean the water yourself. When you first enter the water in guest mode, it should ask you to hit space bar to clean the water. You may need to hit it three times to get it all the way cleaned, but I have had no problems keeping it clean like this.

What kinds of exhibits are you doing, tanks or natural exhibits? I must admit I haven't played much of the game yet, but in the beta there were a lot of problems like the ones you describe. (Let me tell you, this version is MUCH less buggy then the beta version haha)
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: CrowRidgeStudio on October 24, 2006, 10:50:11 AM
About not being able to walk around in guest mode and safari mode, I had this problem too...I removed the "zoo zoom" hack, thinking it might be camera related, and now I have no problem.

I don't want to accuse the "zoo zoom" hack, but it did work for me....

Best,
Suzanne
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: RedNotDead on October 24, 2006, 10:57:38 AM
Well as the hack was made BEFORE MM2 there is no guarentee that it would work.  It is always best to not use hacks in new EP's unless the creators have said they are specifically for that EP.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Wild One on October 24, 2006, 11:58:47 AM
Thanks to your guys' acvice, I can finally walk around again! Thanks guys!
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Zoocrazyman on October 24, 2006, 05:33:15 PM
I'm wondering... is there any bugs that could permantely damage the game?
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: andypvera on October 24, 2006, 06:45:05 PM
Quote from: mikaboshi;150177
You can manually clean the water yourself. When you first enter the water in guest mode, it should ask you to hit space bar to clean the water. You may need to hit it three times to get it all the way cleaned, but I have had no problems keeping it clean like this.

What kinds of exhibits are you doing, tanks or natural exhibits? I must admit I haven't played much of the game yet, but in the beta there were a lot of problems like the ones you describe. (Let me tell you, this version is MUCH less buggy then the beta version haha)


You said that you go on guest mode and clean it. I already tried that but that dosn't work at all and the animals get mad really quicky becuase it's dirty in there. It's a regular tank.

I think that BF/MS rushed to put the game to sell without taking out the buggs. That's why I think that there are a lot of problems when you install MM2.:loony:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Azrael2110 on October 24, 2006, 06:53:25 PM
There're surely a lot of annoying bugs. I've put tons of water into the exhibits but my animals kept shouting they're thirsty (and then going around do other stuff instead of go find a drink T_T)
And one more things I can never understand. How can an african wilddog still in an exhibit chase guests outside? Cuz it happened to me. Guests ran around saying they are chasing and when I check, the animal was sleeping in its nest :wacko:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Amber1983 on October 25, 2006, 10:49:49 AM
One thing that is really annoying for me is when your trying to do a show in the show tank it always says there is not enough roon to place prop, even when the tank is huge.  I wish you vcould manually place the trick areas to begin with, not only after the computer places them.  It only does that like 50% of the time though, but it's annoying, espically when you are doing a scenario game.  

The black tips are always getting out of the tank and beaching themselves too.  Oh and ALOT of my marine aniamls "fly" lol

I hope they do come out with a patch :)  This game is really amazing though and they did an awsome job.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: chameleongeek on October 25, 2006, 04:03:01 PM
Sorry if it's been posted nut for some odd reason when I place and complete certain items it'll say Zoo tycoon 2 encountered an error and it closes it. Like today i spend half a hour saving money for a tank and when I put the last segment as soon as I placed it it encountered the error. Same with the jeep tour track. Not sure if it's with the computer since it's brand new and high end. But yeah it was annoying especially after spending so long training an animal and not saving.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Amber1983 on October 25, 2006, 08:27:22 PM
I got another bug for everyone lol  When you try and delete the wall between a show tank and a exhibit it will prompt you saying something to the effect of are you sure you want to, all nonshow objects will be deleted, or something like that.  Well if you click ok and then try to hit the undo button it crashes my game.  Happens to me every single time lol  Try it :)
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: horsecrazy on October 27, 2006, 05:08:43 AM
When I zoom out, the Orca's head changes to the shape of a dolphin head.:blink:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: RedNotDead on October 27, 2006, 07:57:17 AM
finished all the sceneriso in the marine animals campaign but even after arlug having her baby it didnt unlock the whale hall.  Had to hack the options file to unlock it even though all the other campaigns in the scenrio where completed and marked as completed and all goe=als within the campaigns marked as completed.  Had the same problem in the beta so it looks like some things have not improved.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: andypvera on October 27, 2006, 08:12:24 AM
Ok since you finished all the scenarios can you put them for download becuase they are very hard for me to finish all the animals get mad really quickly. And I know that the game has a lottttttttttttt of buggs. MS/BF should make a patch for MM2 really fast.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: steven90 on October 27, 2006, 10:27:56 AM
okay, i HAVE read the other topic, but i CANT launch zt2mm, i double click put the disk in again, everything, then i looked at the other topic, but i DONT have the old icon with the tiger eye on my desktop, and cant find it in my program files either, if someone has already said this i opologise but im realy annoyed right now :(
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Amber1983 on October 27, 2006, 12:51:48 PM
i should check and see if i got the whae hall lol  I finished that too, but i had to release arlug to the wild lol  

Another bug i get is alot of the time when i am training an animal, after training them they never come back for you to reward them, that gets annoying lol
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: topcatdk on October 27, 2006, 03:43:06 PM
I got a severe case of blind animals just minutes ago, 5 or 6 animals simply wouldn't go and eat or drink even though there were plenty of supplies around. Seems like somehow the animal data gets corrupted, the only fix seems to be to give the animal away.

I think I've seen this bug prior to MM though so not much new, the bug might be related to me doing a massive rebuild of the zoo, including removing 6 species with a total of more than 50 animals in paused mode.

Come to think of it, I've had other minor problems when making huge changes in paused mode but they usually gets fixed with save-quit-reload, think I should try that the next time I get this problem....
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: shecrock on October 28, 2006, 02:58:08 AM
Quote from: CrowRidgeStudio;150204
About not being able to walk around in guest mode and safari mode, I had this problem too...I removed the "zoo zoom" hack, thinking it might be camera related, and now I have no problem.

I don't want to accuse the "zoo zoom" hack, but it did work for me....

Best,
Suzanne


I am having the same  prob . I will remove zoom too , I hope that it works for me :sweatingb . I did just put that down load in  so finger crossed  I have had no prab with  MM2 , tell this:innocent:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: steven90 on October 28, 2006, 05:18:49 AM
oh, ive fixed it now, but i have another bug, when i fixed it ihad to uninstall the game then re-install all of the exps and zt2, but now everything on ES either is completely gone, or is pink, with yellow and blue spots, i am going to try re-installing eveything aain, but im not sure if it is a bug caued by MM2 or if it is just a problem with my disc :unsure:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: TurtleStork on October 28, 2006, 07:03:12 AM
guys, don't know if anyone posted this, but remember when steve said the viewing areas in dino digs were changed from 1 x 2 to 2 x 2 so that they would be marine mania compatible? They are back to 1 x 2. For some reason I think blue fang was rushed in putting this one out.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: wolfkid92 on October 28, 2006, 08:05:37 AM
no one liked the 2x2 so i think they fixed it and put it back and thats what the update for dino danger is b/c 2x2 came with dino danger
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: guardian_titan on October 28, 2006, 09:27:27 AM
I was the one that put up a request to change the canopies back to 1x2.  A lot of us said yes to it.  I did notice in the demo (I didn't buy the game yet) that the front lip of the canopies have been removed.  That was the overlapping problem with the tank walls anyway.  It's nice to see that it's back to 1x2 in the actual expansion and not just the demo.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: andypvera on October 28, 2006, 09:47:25 AM
I know a problem of some people have in MM2. Remember that there is not enough space to put a trick area in a show. I found that you need to make the tank more deeper so that the tricks fit in there
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Wildlife Enthusiast on October 28, 2006, 11:15:22 AM
Quote from: andypvera;151606
I know a problem of some people have in MM2. Remember that there is not enough space to put a trick area in a show. I found that you need to make the tank more deeper so that the tricks fit in there


I have my tanks @ maximum depth, and I still get those messages!! :hmmm: :wallbash:
:flipper:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: chameleongeek on October 28, 2006, 01:47:36 PM
I had a really weird bug....

I had a tank on top of a hill. It was a show tank connected to the home tank. Well I went to get rid of the whole thing so I clicked to delete a section of the tank. I didn't give me the message that it would sell everything in the tank instead it flooded my entire zoo!:surprise: as soon as it did that it gave me the message objects will be sold as a result of selling the tank. In the background my whole zoo was flooded. All of the buildings were underwater the animals were gone. When i accepted (no other choice) All the animals were gone. Fences were still up , water was gone, the weirdest part was it turned all the other biomes into boreal. the tank was tundra so it couldn't of been the pelithic biome. Plus mojority of the land that had exhibit was sunken and I could not straighten it out. Really weird.....:pinch: Hope BF gets a patch :laughing:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: eye_of_the_tiger on October 28, 2006, 06:37:16 PM
i have been having major problems with waterfalls. i cant seem to get those big, wide flowing ones anymore, and the ones i do get often come with some weird cliff deformities. its kinda anoyying, i would post pics if i knew how. also the game lags a lot sometimes when i place something new, it'll be frozen for about 20 seconds, and i have a medium/high range comp and have never had a problem with lag.:blink:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: kiwibuddy on October 28, 2006, 08:54:50 PM
I still haven't found out if the peafowl crown bug was fixed. But look at what happened to this woman's hair (http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hairrd1.jpg)!
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: happyholly on October 29, 2006, 04:07:00 AM
I've had the game a couple of days now, and I only have one bug, but its a stinker! Sometimes, for no obvious reason, the game just 'kicks me out'. No error or warning message, I'm just playing the game and it closes!

I am thinking of getting more RAM as I was getting slow response in ZT2, but this has never happened til I got MM2, so I'm thinking its a bug not just my rubbish pc!:hammer2:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: kiwibuddy on October 29, 2006, 07:09:16 AM
I don't know if this was posted. But I noticed yet another bug when my sea lions were mating, but were 10 feet away from each other. :blink: My female became pregnant.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Peacenote on October 29, 2006, 12:09:03 PM
Well I don't know if this is a bug or me doing something wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's a bug.

When my marine shows are over, the guests all get mad and say they wanted to donate but couldn't find a donation box.  Then I get a red message saying "Many guests can't find donation boxes" and my fame goes down.

However, in an attempt to fix this I put MANY MANY donation boxes in the area and the guests don't use them.  I think out of all the guests sitting there only one or two use the boxes, and the rest walk away mad.  I tried using the Pirate donation boxes, in case they wanted a themed one, and then I tried using the normal donation boxes, in case that was the problem.

It's set up like this:  (D for donation boxes, G for grandstand, and C for gift cart)

Code: [Select]
**Show Tank**
 D D D     C
DGDGDGD    D  

As you can see I put in quite a few donation boxes!  :laughing:  They also use the gift cart just fine.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Nique on October 29, 2006, 12:14:28 PM
I had the same problem with the donations. I literally had an entire row -solid - across the front of my show tank and even with that many there were still at least 1/2 dozen people walking away mad. It was crazy!
Title: bugged
Post by: shecrock on October 29, 2006, 11:30:57 PM
:surprise: the only  bug I notice is the head less  people or just A head going along , i get this quite a lot . its funny  I dont know why it happens :surprise:
Title: Shows and Donation boxes
Post by: Lilaviel on October 30, 2006, 11:36:54 AM
It seems that wherever I put them, guests can't find donation boxes for shows. Well, most of them can't. Is anyone else having this problem? It seems to be a glitch to me, but if not, have any of you found a really good spot for them that the guests CAN see?:blink:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: RedNotDead on October 30, 2006, 12:14:39 PM
right by the ends of the grandstands in front of the show tank wall so as they leave the show they have to pass them.  works everytime for me
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: mikaboshi on October 30, 2006, 12:15:54 PM
Merged with the Bug Report thread as this is a known bug with MM2
Title: Animals listed out of order?
Post by: whispurr on October 31, 2006, 12:15:53 AM
I don't see this issue addressed elsewhere, though I'm sure it has been.

I have ZT2 with all of the available expansions.  When I open the Zoo Quick Stats, the animals are generally listed in order, but they get mixed together when they are animals that start with the same letter (like black Leopard and Ring Tailed Lemurs.)  Right now the "G" animals are completely confusing with Crested Gibbons, Reticulated Giraffes, Masai Giraffes, and Mountain Gorillas in the mix.  

Is there any way to get these animals to group together properly in the Quick Stats window?  It's really difficult to cull a herd when you can't even see what you have!

Thanks,
Teresa
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: RedNotDead on October 31, 2006, 12:19:16 AM
this is a bug merged with topic on bugs.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: RedNotDead on October 31, 2006, 08:45:21 AM
latest bug i have noticed the tuna and the tv dont stay unlocked so if i complete it and pass on the otpions file to somenone else then the game ignores that options file and wont unlock them so again people have to do the marine shows challenge and marine animals challenges.  Or if i complete them then decided to install another ep then it makes then unlocked again so you have to complete them again even thought the options files says that they are unlocked.  Really, Really Really annoying.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Wildlife Enthusiast on October 31, 2006, 09:07:35 AM
I tried the challenge in which you are supposed to take care of Delia the Dolphin :flipper: for a certain period of time...... The exact second I put her in the tank, I got message about her being unhappy, and I failed!!!!  I didn't even have time to go into zookeeper mode to see if she needed cleaned!!! :sign_alri :hairpull:  I think this challenge was buggy during Beta also, if I'm not mistaken.  These bugs & glitches are [LOWER]VERY[/LOWER] frustrating, & often interfere with my enjoyment of the game!!  But, I still can't stop playing!!  :whistling
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: BFScottMacmillan on October 31, 2006, 09:33:37 AM
Hey everyone,

Thanks for all the info on bugs!  We're going to work to try to identify the Rockhopper issues over here.  If you have a save game that reliably exhibits weird rockhopper behaviors*, please contact me with a PM so I can try to get the save game from you.

For people who are having weird grapahics issues - including the Rockhopper walking sideways - please make sure that your graphics card drivers are up to date.  If you don't know how to do that, you'll want to talk to someone who does and get their help.  Also tazlover has a great point - if you have any hacks or weird changes done to your installed game, very wonky things can occur.

Thanks very much for playing Zoo and MM, and for loving the games enough to complain about them.  :)  We really do appreciate your feedback, and we try to fix these things whenever and however we can.

*When I say "reliably", I mean that the behaviors need to show up consistently.  If you think you have one, please test your save like this:
  - See the Rockhopper do a weird thin
  - Save your game.
  - Make sure he's still doing it.
  - Load your game.
  - Make sure he's still doing it.

We want to fix these sorts of bugs, but we're unfortunately always very, very short on time.  There's always a lot more that we want to do than we have time and money for.  :)  So, if you can test your save game and it passes those requirements above, there's a much better chance that our QA team can nail down that bug with the time they have.  Thanks!
Title: Cant walk in gust moad
Post by: shecrock on October 31, 2006, 09:57:50 PM
:hmmm: Ok I did it . I uninstalled the Zoo Zoom The Camera Zoom Out Hack and that fixed the prab. Thank for the help and input  :party5:  I can walk with the animals agian  :IloveZA: :IloveZA:
Title: water falles
Post by: shecrock on October 31, 2006, 10:05:19 PM
So far I like most every thing in mm2:specool:  but the change in the water falls I cant make the big beautiful ones I could befor.: :( :   Is this permanent or is there A chance this could be changed. just wondering:innocent:

Please do not double post--use the Edit button to add more info to your own post if no one else has already posted after you. Thank You.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: gecko on November 01, 2006, 02:05:09 AM
hello :)
I have so many bug whit the narval :/ yesterday i was a narval whith two horns or several femal with one horn it's normal ?

i add a picture of this narval :
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4360/enlargedbs0.jpg

sorry for my bad english but i am french
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: mikaboshi on November 01, 2006, 02:57:21 AM
Hello, welcome to ZA! Don't forget to say hi in the [topic=507]Introductions[/topic] thread. We also have a French Section (http://zoo.ogresnet.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=108) to the forums, though they aren't developed very well yet.

Narwhals in the wild do have these differences, and the game is programmed to have them. It is not a bug, its actually quite natural and good that BF put it in there :happy:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: gecko on November 01, 2006, 03:21:09 AM
exuce me but i don't understand all and i need a build of center of reproduction (it is in a addon of endangered species but i am a noob xD and i have no win the campaing :/) you know that ? it is HS i'm sorry but i seek it you can delete it after a answer :D

pls
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: gecko on November 01, 2006, 03:31:17 AM
[modnotice=mikaboshi] Please do not double post - use the edit button.[/modnotice]
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: mikaboshi on November 01, 2006, 03:41:23 AM
You have to still give your turtles land to go on and place water for them there by making a combined exhibit.

As for the Endangered Species Breeding Center, check our downloads area; I think we have a hack that will give it to you.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: gecko on November 01, 2006, 03:52:57 AM
thanx i have find it ;)
Title: bugs
Post by: Agent Froggy on November 01, 2006, 04:24:52 AM
I pre ordered MM2, I installed it and it is great. The one problem is the tank walls and any glass see thru fences that come with MM2 are prefectly clear, with out a glare or anything. The water in tanks looks as if it is floating, and the see thru glass for the glass walls are gone. Also, when I go into the tanks to clean them, it sometimes wont let me, though the animals are unhappy and the tank says its dirty. Did I accidentally get the beta version or something?:crying:  
P.S. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling the game.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: mikaboshi on November 01, 2006, 04:30:58 AM
Merged with the current topic for Bug Reports. Please use the[topic=5628]Search[/topic] feature in the future before starting a new topic
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on November 01, 2006, 04:58:23 AM
Quote from: BFScottMacmillan;152933
Hey everyone,

Thanks for all the info on bugs!  We're going to work to try to identify the Rockhopper issues over here.  If you have a save game that reliably exhibits weird rockhopper behaviors*, please contact me with a PM so I can try to get the save game from you.

For people who are having weird grapahics issues - including the Rockhopper walking sideways - please make sure that your graphics card drivers are up to date.  If you don't know how to do that, you'll want to talk to someone who does and get their help.  Also tazlover has a great point - if you have any hacks or weird changes done to your installed game, very wonky things can occur.

Thanks very much for playing Zoo and MM, and for loving the games enough to complain about them.  :)  We really do appreciate your feedback, and we try to fix these things whenever and however we can.

*When I say "reliably", I mean that the behaviors need to show up consistently.  If you think you have one, please test your save like this:
  - See the Rockhopper do a weird thin
  - Save your game.
  - Make sure he's still doing it.
  - Load your game.
  - Make sure he's still doing it.

We want to fix these sorts of bugs, but we're unfortunately always very, very short on time.  There's always a lot more that we want to do than we have time and money for.  :)  So, if you can test your save game and it passes those requirements above, there's a much better chance that our QA team can nail down that bug with the time they have.  Thanks!



I appreciate you dropping in to the community, but you really haven't identified any of the bugs that we have been reporting on.  Additionally, we recognize that programming is a difficult task but I have never played any computer game that contained so many glaringly obvious flaws.  I hope I speak for all of us when I say that we would prefer that you stop work on all other Zoo Tycoon related programming in favor of a patch that fixes all of these bugs.  Blue Fang distributes their games through Microsoft, and I have to believe that name brand recognition is very valuable to your company.  I can't imagine Microsoft continuing to endorse a product that has so many un-addressed in game issues.  I apologize for the harshness of this post, but we don't have another venue to express our discontent.  Like many, I've become frustrated with what should be an amazing computer game because glitches detract from enjoying the game wholeheartedly.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Peacenote on November 02, 2006, 07:19:06 AM
I am fairly certain the donation box bug is not just show related, as I have noticed now other guests getting mad and saying they can't find donation boxes that are right in front of their faces at regular exhibits.  Sometimes other guests are using them, sometimes not.  It just is very obvious during the shows because so many guests want to donate after them.

@RND: do you have a pic of your donation box placement?  I'm pretty sure what you said is what I do, but maybe not.

@Scott: I was wondering if you could confirm any major known bugs that were fixed with MM2.  For example it seems to me like the guests getting through fences and falling off of elevated paths into exhibits seems to have been fixed.  I'd love to know if that was specifically addressed or if I've just been lucky.  :wink:  I also noticed there is an MM2 water fountain but I never really heard if the problems with the initial water fountain were cleared up.  I think it would be nice for the community to know some of those things, and plus we could give you feedback if we still happen to have trouble with any of those issues.  Thanks so much for stopping by, also, although I know you all work hard to fix as much as you can it is definitely nice to hear.  And I can tell you that I think the MM2 expansion is great!  :original:

I also have the animal ordering/listing problem, and it's definitely annoying.  Especially since there is no Exhibit Menu like in ZT1 (which I would love to see implemented someday) so there's no way to go through all the animals except that one list.  I think from a customer standpoint the most annoying bugs are ones that affect features that existed and worked fine before MM2, like the animal listing and the donation boxes.  It doesn't bother me as much if something that was introduced in MM2 has an issue that needs to get worked out (like the Rockhopper Penguin) because no software is without glitches, but to have something that WAS working and then have it stop working is more frustrating.  In my opinion of course.  :whistling

One more thing I have noticed, and it may just be me doing something wrong, is I get MANY more complaints about "not being able to see any animals from here!".  I use the eye tool as much as I can to figure out the problems, but in many cases the guests SHOULD be able to see animals and I'm not sure why they can't.  In some of my tank exhibits it seems that guests will only see animals through binoculars.  I've tried raising the tank floor, so the animals can't swim below eye level, or lowering the paths, and still nothing.  And I'm getting this problem with regular exhibits too.  Is anyone else having this or is it just me?
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Miami Gator398 on November 02, 2006, 12:38:38 PM
it was wired, i built a new tank in the middle of my zoo for my turtles, and my game bogged down, then came back with a huge rainforest crater  (http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n243/flagator3989988/MM2.jpg)in the center of my zoo! I don't think that was supposed to happen.....
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: crabcat72 on November 02, 2006, 01:07:56 PM
Quote from: Peacenote;153480
I am fairly certain the donation box bug is not just show related, as I have noticed now other guests getting mad and saying they can't find donation boxes that are right in front of their faces at regular exhibits.  Sometimes other guests are using them, sometimes not.  It just is very obvious during the shows because so many guests want to donate after them.


One more thing I have noticed, and it may just be me doing something wrong, is I get MANY more complaints about "not being able to see any animals from here!".  I use the eye tool as much as I can to figure out the problems, but in many cases the guests SHOULD be able to see animals and I'm not sure why they can't.  In some of my tank exhibits it seems that guests will only see animals through binoculars.  I've tried raising the tank floor, so the animals can't swim below eye level, or lowering the paths, and still nothing.  And I'm getting this problem with regular exhibits too.  Is anyone else having this or is it just me?


I've been really fortunate not to have most of the bugs that folks have been reporting, but man, do I have the donation box one!! I experimented with RND's placement, and had some success, but found the only real solution (and by that I mean one good enough to keep from losing fame) was to have one box for every two or three guests. And in places where guests congregate, like show tanks or near ed. podiums, that's a lot of boxes!


I've also been getting the "can't see animals"  message a great deal, in all my exhibits... maybe it's related to the fact that guests won't look off an elevated path over water? Perhaps if the water is too close to the path, they "can't see"? Doesn't make sense for the tank exhibits tho...hmm.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: ZAMAN on November 02, 2006, 01:48:27 PM
why can some animals go through stuff.
Title: New Bug
Post by: shrubflower on November 03, 2006, 09:21:53 AM
Hi. I think I have a new bug that no one has previously mentioned.  It has to do with shows.  In Marine Mania, I have fully trained two of my Belugas in Challenge Mode.  After they performed in the show a couple of times, the populairty of all their tricks changed.  For example, the spyhop trick was originally at its normal star amount (like 3) and now it is 1.  All of their tricks have dropped down in popularity.  But this didn't happen in scenario mode, so I don't know what's going on.  It happened with my sea lions too! This causes the shows to get a horrible rating!:blink:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: mikaboshi on November 03, 2006, 09:30:28 AM
Well, if guests see the same trick over and over again, it loses rating because it is boring. You need to train carefully, gradually adding more and more "cool" tricks to the show so that the people stay entertained.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: shrubflower on November 03, 2006, 09:37:47 AM
Really? I thought it was a bug!  So I have to just keep changing the tricks and gradually train?  And also change the show often? I didn't realize that the popularity could change, thanks! Makes me feel better!
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Flames The Dragon on November 04, 2006, 04:43:26 PM
this bug has happend to me many times and its annoying my animals teleport out of there exibits I get messages Balcktip Reef Shark,Goblin Shark,Mamtee is on land and can`t breathe!it is werid because mantees are mammals right?
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Candypanda57 on November 04, 2006, 04:56:28 PM
I just got MM2 about 4 days ago. I installed it and played the Tutorials with no problem. I decided to play a Freeform game to get used to some of the new features before starting a Campaign game. I created 2 exhibits - Orcas & Dolphins. The exhibits were on opposite sides of a show tank. My idea was to have both Orcas & Dolphins perform together in a show. My first problem was that within a minute or two both species' "social" levels went from satisfied to pressing to critical. Soon after the "Happiness" levels did the same thing. No show could be performed because both species were so extremely unhappy. I tried everything I could think of to get the levels back to "Satisfied" but nothing worked!! Then I noticed that every once in a while I would see a dolphin out of the tank and swimming in the grass!! The orcas were crated both inside their exhibit and also outside of their exhibt. I never got any message as to why the Orcas were crated! I am not new to ZT2 or ZT1 and have never had problems keeping my animals happy. Still it was pretty frustrating. While reading some of the earlier postings in this thread, I came upon a post by RND on 10/24/06. It was said that maybe some of the "hacks" that were created by members before MM2 came out may not be compatible. So I went into my game and deleted every "Hack" I had downloaded with the exception of the "Hacked ATM" hack created by RND. I once again went into a freeform game and set up an Ocra exhibit and show. What a difference!! My Orcas are happy! They are performing in the show. Some times I still see the "Social" level go from satisfied to pressing to critical but it doesn't stay critical for long before becoming satisfied again. As for some of the other "bugs" described here, I haven't had my game long enough to have experienced them but maybe it's like RND said - some of the earlier hacks just aren't compatible with MM2.
:IloveZA:
Title: hippie hair texture messed up
Post by: liquid Ocelot on November 04, 2006, 05:11:44 PM
I know other people have had this problem, I just started getting it today after I installed Marine Mania. It is starting to make me mad:angry:

Is there a way to fix this or am I simply doomed to having a messed up hippie everywhere?

Moved to MM2 Bug Report. Please be careful when you are starting new topics-the subject you are talking about may already have a topic going about it.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Venatosaurus on November 04, 2006, 05:22:09 PM
yeah that is the same prob i have my female hippies hair is the same texture on her face. so basicly her hair has her face on it
Title: Meerkats won't drink water
Post by: SemiCharmedQuark on November 04, 2006, 11:16:08 PM
I looked to see if there was a thread on this.  I didn't see one, but I apologize if this has already been asked.  My meerkats will not drink water.  I've provided them with water in every kind of container and water in their environment.  Please help.  Thanks much.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Penguino on November 05, 2006, 01:08:44 AM
As long as the items are there, I'm not sure there's much you can do; as they say, you can lead a meerkat to water, but you can't make it drink. : :P :
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Crookshankz227 on November 05, 2006, 01:17:05 AM
Crate and uncrate them; buy new ones, and if those don't work remove all user made content from your game.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: csleesburg on November 05, 2006, 08:28:02 AM
Do the meerkats care? Are they saying they're thirsty?
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: sarah1983 on November 08, 2006, 03:26:25 AM
You know when you get the challenge where it gives you Orcas and you have to raise so much in donations for them?  Well on mine it gives me 2 Orcas and 2 unnamed.  If I fail the challenge then the Orcas get taken away but the unnameds stay.  They're always Orcas.  It's happened about 5 times so far.
I'm not complaining, free animals after all, but just wondered whether anyone else had noticed this.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: lonchura on November 08, 2006, 09:14:08 AM
is it a bug ? but the keepers just put dishes and food everywhere even if the animals have plently of food and water, also they cant work out where the gate is if they are at the other side of the enclosure.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: janeandco on November 08, 2006, 03:23:51 PM
my game won't even start! it's the same on two computers, i click the icon and the game just won't start. i've aborted all of my other processes too, and it still won't work! any ideas?
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Peacenote on November 08, 2006, 05:24:18 PM
Check out this topic (http://zoo.ogresnet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6378) here.  It is a bug, and this topic explains how to find the right file to make the game launch.  :thumbsup:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: mimisia92 on November 08, 2006, 08:44:56 PM
That happens sometimes with ythe user diownloads. At least it happened to me a couple of times.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Bengal on November 09, 2006, 06:02:59 PM
I'm actually having the same problem. This occured after installing MM2. They will drink very rarely and only from a natural body of water. But their thirst need stay in the red for a very long time.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: lonchura on November 10, 2006, 04:24:43 AM
ok orca's wouldnt go though the gate into show tank, but dolphins would. orca floated alot !
Title: Viewing Canopies and MM
Post by: ShenTirag on November 10, 2006, 02:12:52 PM
Now...I'm sure this isn't right.  

I have ZT2, ES, AA, DD and today installed MM.  Now, no hitches, everything went fine.  Only, I'm sure when I bought and installed DD the viewing canopies switched to a larger grid size (2x2 squares instead of 1x2) to resolve an issue that would occur with MM - that the viewing canopies would protrude into the tanks.  Now that I've installed MM, this fix seems to have disappeared, the canopies have reverted to a 1x2 grid and they stick into my pretty tanks!

Is this supposed to have happened, or am I missing some sort of patch to fix this again?
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: mikaboshi on November 10, 2006, 02:19:59 PM
On Page 11 (http://zoo.ogresnet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6078&page=11) of this thread people have already found out this bug as you have *nods*

Merged just to keep everything together!
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: ShenTirag on November 10, 2006, 02:24:27 PM
Ah right, cheers, I'd skim-read most of this but obviously didn't look hard enough ¬¬
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: mikaboshi on November 10, 2006, 02:25:17 PM
No worries! That's one of the reasons us Mods are here :happy:

How do you do those little eyes!?!? I want 'em.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Bengal on November 10, 2006, 02:46:14 PM
There is already a topic about this but I thought I would add it here-

After installing MM2, some people's meerkats seem to not drink and just let their thirst need climb and stay in the red.

Also, all of my show animals lack the MM2 icon..
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Lugger on November 10, 2006, 03:16:59 PM
Quote from: Wild One;148448
I have a bug in this game where I can't walk around in guest mode since installing Marine Mania 2. :huh: This is really irritating me.

i have this as well i just dont use guest mode of photo mode anymore now

____________________
@Bengal "Also, all of my show animals lack the MM2 icon.."

i got that with show animals when i had ST animals without mm compatible hack by ST
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Bengal on November 10, 2006, 04:24:26 PM
I don't have any downloads except for the Space Hack and Unlock hack.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: RedNotDead on November 10, 2006, 10:54:27 PM
Quote from: Bengal;156079
There is already a topic about this but I thought I would add it here-

After installing MM2, some people's meerkats seem to not drink and just let their thirst need climb and stay in the red.

Also, all of my show animals lack the MM2 icon..



do nyou have any of tomcats animals?  if so you need his fix as his icon interferes with the official icons that is why we dont let people make their own icons anymore.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Bengal on November 11, 2006, 05:24:35 AM
Nope RND sure don't- I did have the Asian Black Bear but I uninstalled it before installing MM2. Could that still be the problem even though I uninstalled it?
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: penguinman on November 11, 2006, 07:30:55 AM
I have the same problem... It's quite odd :hmmm:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: janeandco on November 11, 2006, 09:08:15 AM
thank you so much, that made it work!
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: RedNotDead on November 11, 2006, 11:19:07 AM
hhmm as to the show animals icons not appearing i dont know if you havent got tomcats stuff.  I have a few hacks in my game but no problems.  one thing i have not tried is other peoples stuff that may have icons ( i think otter lords animals did) the only thing i can suggst is to do a clean install without any hacks or downlaods and see if your icons are back - if so then add stuff backone by one and see when/if things change.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Bengal on November 11, 2006, 12:21:59 PM
Well, even though I have none of STC's animals, I installed his icon fix anyway..and..it worked. :huh: No clue what is going on there, because I am sure I don't have any other downloads. :wacko:
Title: Meerkat males dont drink?!
Post by: yamicat_mage on November 13, 2006, 12:08:02 PM
Is is just my male meerkats or do others have trouble with them? I put lots of water bowls too. Any suggestions?
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on November 15, 2006, 04:51:41 AM
RND, do you have problems with animals not ordering properly on the zoo roster?
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: RedNotDead on November 15, 2006, 05:41:56 AM
Quote from: Bengal;156389
Well, even though I have none of STC's animals, I installed his icon fix anyway..and..it worked. :huh: No clue what is going on there, because I am sure I don't have any other downloads. :wacko:




have you ever used any of tomcats animals because it may of written that on your opitons file somewhere and therefore it somehow remembers you had them and so gives you the problem?

as to your question animalkingom yes everyone does.

and yes there are problems with the meerkats as well

hoepfully there will be a patch soon to fix the problems.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Bengal on November 15, 2006, 02:18:35 PM
I have RND- that must be the reason!

The meerkats do get really annoying..I hope there is a patch soon as well! (to fix the galapagos tortoise along with it!)
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Corvidae on November 15, 2006, 11:37:24 PM
I've also had the same problem since installing MM2. Weird how it only seems to effect the meerkats!
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: heklar on November 16, 2006, 01:24:57 AM
I also have the water/won't drink problem with white rhinos. They can stand next to a water bowl pawing the ground looking for water.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: NakitiDL on November 16, 2006, 04:05:14 AM
Since installing MM2, I have had several animals ignore their food. At first I thought it was just the dinos, but I've also had problems with the Nile Crocs and the African Elephants, at least.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Ironchef on November 16, 2006, 04:15:21 PM
I don't know if this was posted, because it's not really a problem, more of a funny glitch.  You see I had a walrus tank, and made it as deep as I could using the biome editing tools.  Then, I waited for him to swim all the way down to the bottom before I released him to the wild.  Because he's a land animal not a marine animal, he went into a regular box (all underwater), and then a helicopter flies through the walls, picks him up, and flies back through the wall.  It was hilarious.  It wasn't a tank either, just really big pool. : :) :
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Taipan on November 18, 2006, 12:29:38 AM
Ya I know it's wierd and funny
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Bep-Boi on November 20, 2006, 12:26:09 AM
I have a bug with my concrete walls. You can see straight through them and they look like ordinary see-through walls :angry:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: DinoMania on November 21, 2006, 02:08:20 AM
Hi Peepz,
I do have probles with MM2, one of the first glitche i found out was.....
BLUE WHALE HALL ain't coming up.I keep "restarting" (and winning) the scenario to but nothing,does anyone no how to get the whale?
Most of you should no this
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: DinoMania on November 21, 2006, 02:14:51 AM
Hi Again,
I forgot to say in my last "thread" is
ZT2,ES,AA,DD,MM2 totaly rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:IloveZA: :IloveZA: :IloveZA: :laughing: :woot: And other "smilies" Ha lol


[modnotice=RednotDead] Please do not double post use the EDIT button and this post is SPAM please do not spam the boards[/modnotice]
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: herdthinner on November 26, 2006, 05:32:49 PM
This may be a graphics card/driver problem**, but when training show animals, some - not all - of the teaching screens go all black except for some text at bottom and icons in the corners.  Offhand I recall that the Beaching trick goes black; there are other tricks that go black but can't recall.  Most of them work fine (Bar Leaps, Somersaults, et al).  This applies to all show animals that I've tried.  Anyone else?


**have tried upgrading the drivers on several occasions, but can't find them on the manufacturer's own site!  Weird!
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on December 01, 2006, 03:32:45 PM
This is truly unacceptable.  I know workers for Blue Fang look through these forums, and many of these bugs were also found during the beta testing.  A fix all patch should be made ASAP before they even think of making another expansion or animal download.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: animal artist on December 01, 2006, 07:11:01 PM
Agree'd Animal Kingdom.

I couldnt resist, I just had to have MM. I hated the bugs during the beta testing but figured they'd fix everything.

Due to display, freezing and bug issues and after striving to fix it - MM is now uninstalled on my machine and Ive wasted my money. I wont buy another ex pack.

Bluefang - fix it.:angry:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Rotipher on December 08, 2006, 04:34:38 AM
Not sure if this counts as a bug or just an oversight, but all of my AA animals and the four free downloads (addax, Asian elephant, black leopard and musk ox) tolerate the land-based versions of the new marine biomes.  Their habitat box fills up with green about a third of the way up, but that's all.

I'm assuming this is some kind of "default" reaction on these animals' part, due to BF neglecting to assign them a specific response to the marine habitats.  But it's still odd to see mandrills and Ethiopian wolves tolerating a Coastal biome, and doing so more comfortably than the Komodo dragon (which is supposed to be an island-dweller) does! :rolleyes:
Title: Donation boxes for Shows
Post by: Lilaviel on December 08, 2006, 08:12:52 AM
I can't seem to put the donation boxes for the MM2 shows in the right place. Most of the visitors can't find them. Is this a bug, or is it something I'm doing wrong?
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: mikaboshi on December 08, 2006, 11:06:28 AM
Topic Merged with MM2 Bug Reports topic

It is indeed a bug that has already been discussed. Please use the search feature before starting new threads, as sometimes there is already a place to discuss what you have to say.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Lilaviel on December 08, 2006, 11:24:11 AM
Ahh, I see. Sorry bout that.  At least it's not just me. I was trying everything to get people to donate. I really hope a patch comes out soon...
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: shecrock on December 09, 2006, 01:48:21 AM
I have headless zookeepers
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Bengal on December 09, 2006, 06:32:09 AM
Shecrock, what are your graphics settings on? That could be a problem
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: wolfkid92 on December 10, 2006, 09:22:30 AM
ok i have everything on high and my graphics card can handle it but i found a problem since MM.  the female orangutan has no animations and just slides accross the floor if she is a certain distance away from you. here is a picture
(http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/3875/enlargedpa7.th.jpg) (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=enlargedpa7.jpg)
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on December 10, 2006, 06:56:54 PM
The lack of responses from Blue Fang is puzzling to say it nicely.  It took me about a week to successfully install Marine Mania causing me to uninstall the other expansions.

I played for a few days, and haven't played since.  We need a patch to make the game easier to install, and a patch that fixes all the bugs - Please, would someone from Blue Fang give us a status update on our concerns - this is truly unacceptable.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: mikaboshi on December 10, 2006, 07:11:40 PM
Well Animal Kingdom, not everyone is having the problems, and before they can release a patch for it, they have to be able to recreate the situation and have it work the exact same way for it to even be called a problem.

I know you are frustrated, and I'm sorry. But I think that you need to be able to understand that its not as simple as saying "please do this". You need staff, time, and money to be able to do things like that.

Also, if they tried to make everything 100% everytime, that would take resources away from other expansion packs, and then people would be complaining about that...really, no matter what, people are going to keep complaining no matter WHAT BF does.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: kiwibuddy on December 10, 2006, 09:04:57 PM
I've noticed that everytime I swim with a marine animal, it will swim up to the surface and stay up there for a while, then you'll automatically stop swimming with it after some time. I'm not totally sure if this is an actual bug, but I find it unusual. :huh:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: sheltiefan on December 10, 2006, 09:52:04 PM
Quote from: wolfkid92;164455
ok i have everything on high and my graphics card can handle it but i found a problem since MM.  the female orangutan has no animations and just slides accross the floor if she is a certain distance away from you. here is a picture
(http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/3875/enlargedpa7.th.jpg) (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=enlargedpa7.jpg)


Yes I've had that to, it's really strange looking to say the least. I've also noticed some of my MM animals freezing up while swimming (I believe it was the sea lions). They remain suspended in the water and motionless until I pick them up and drop them down somewhere else.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on December 12, 2006, 05:49:44 PM
Quote from: mikaboshi;164626
Well Animal Kingdom, not everyone is having the problems, and before they can release a patch for it, they have to be able to recreate the situation and have it work the exact same way for it to even be called a problem.

I know you are frustrated, and I'm sorry. But I think that you need to be able to understand that its not as simple as saying "please do this". You need staff, time, and money to be able to do things like that.

Also, if they tried to make everything 100% everytime, that would take resources away from other expansion packs, and then people would be complaining about that...really, no matter what, people are going to keep complaining no matter WHAT BF does.


mika - the issues mentioned here were reported by several people during the beta and they were not addressed.  The game can't even be installed on most machines (even those that meet the requirements) without a significant struggle.  Once the game is actually installed, something as simple as animals not being ordered properly on the zoo roster is incredibly frustrating - and has been reported as a widespread problem.  The only response from a blue fang employee that we have seen in this thread is in post #124 by BFScottMacmillan - the only thing he addresses is Rockhopper issues that seem relatively insignificant in the grand scheme of things.  The complaint I have with this being the only correspondence is the lack of any concrete statement that there will in fact be a fix all patch.  The exact quote was, "We want to fix these sorts of bugs, but we're unfortunately always very, very short on time. There's always a lot more that we want to do than we have time and money for. :) So, if you can test your save game and it passes those requirements above, there's a much better chance that our QA team can nail down that bug with the time they have. Thanks!"

Yes, I'm frustrated - frustrated by lack of communication to the fans of this product.  Frustrated by a companies unwillingness to stand by it's product.  And frustrated by the fact that a franchise that has so many possibilities is being ruined because the games designers couldn't be bothered to bug test it correctly.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Bep-Boi on December 17, 2006, 04:38:37 AM
I've had a bug where a very small part of ground looks like a dent and starts moving.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: ShenTirag on December 18, 2006, 05:27:38 PM
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The game can't even be installed on most machines (even those that meet the requirements) without a significant struggle.

What evidence do you have to suggest that this is a serious problem?  I installed first time no problems.  A few posts on this forum are hardly indicative of the majority of people who purchase the product.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on December 19, 2006, 04:51:36 AM
Quote from: ShenTirag;166400
What evidence do you have to suggest that this is a serious problem?  I installed first time no problems.  A few posts on this forum are hardly indicative of the majority of people who purchase the product.


People whose computers exceed the system requirements of the game should not have to struggle to install it.  They shouldn't have to format their hard drive or attempt to clean up the registry.  It is a game with a very young beginning audience.  I have never had or seen such a large amount of difficulty surrounding the seemingly simple task of getting a game installed.  It started with Dino Danger, and has only gotten worse with Marine Mania.  I've uninstalled Marine Mania from my machine, and won't even think about purchasing another ZT2 product until I know these issues have been resolved.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: ShenTirag on December 19, 2006, 08:47:16 AM
You didn't really answer my question.  -You- said that you've had a lot of trouble...well not everyone is.  My computer far exceeds the system requirements but both Dino Danger AND MM installed perfectly straight away for me.  I haven't seen any evidence that the majority of people are having installation problems with MM2.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: csleesburg on December 19, 2006, 08:53:38 AM
Quote from: ShenTirag;166522
My computer far exceeds the system requirements but both Dino Danger AND MM installed perfectly straight away for me.  I haven't seen any evidence that the majority of people are having installation problems with MM2.

I agree with you, Shen Tirag. I feel the MAJORITY of people have not had a problem with it. :huh:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: RedNotDead on December 19, 2006, 08:58:31 AM
Im lucky havent had any problems and i also have DD and MM2 and i also dont have the problems that some people have with teh tortoise and my ssytem only just meats minimum specs so that shows you dont need a top of the range comp.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: mikaboshi on December 19, 2006, 09:21:35 AM
I've never had to reformat or uninstall a ZT2 product before installing another - I didn't even have to uninstall MM2 beta before installing the official release. I've never had the tortoise problem. Most problems (not all, granted) are fixed when someone merely places the files back in the correct spot. Most of the errors I have seen are common human mistakes, and are easily resolved. If you look around the forums, most people have found a simple solution that did not require reformatting or uninstalling anything. Sometimes they are so simple that you'd never think about it - but fortunately most of those "bugs" have been squashed and the majority of people (judging by the amount of MM2 show and tells and the dwindling number of Bug Reports) have been able to install successfully. I am sorry that you have not been able to, I truly am, because it is a great game despite all the "problems" and I wish you could enjoy it as well. Every game has there problems, but you are really talking about a small company here. Sure, Blizzard puts out patches, but they've got the resources to do so. Most game companies don't. And most game companies don't have a representative here trying to figure out the problems too. If they can't reproduce the error at their stuido, the error doesn't exist. That's the way bugs work.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on December 20, 2006, 07:37:46 AM
Quote from: mikaboshi;166529
I've never had to reformat or uninstall a ZT2 product before installing another - I didn't even have to uninstall MM2 beta before installing the official release. I've never had the tortoise problem. Most problems (not all, granted) are fixed when someone merely places the files back in the correct spot. Most of the errors I have seen are common human mistakes, and are easily resolved. If you look around the forums, most people have found a simple solution that did not require reformatting or uninstalling anything. Sometimes they are so simple that you'd never think about it - but fortunately most of those "bugs" have been squashed and the majority of people (judging by the amount of MM2 show and tells and the dwindling number of Bug Reports) have been able to install successfully. I am sorry that you have not been able to, I truly am, because it is a great game despite all the "problems" and I wish you could enjoy it as well. Every game has there problems, but you are really talking about a small company here. Sure, Blizzard puts out patches, but they've got the resources to do so. Most game companies don't. And most game companies don't have a representative here trying to figure out the problems too. If they can't reproduce the error at their stuido, the error doesn't exist. That's the way bugs work.

Do any of the individuals that aren't having any problems with MM2 have a problem with the animals not ordering correctly when you look at the screen that shows all the animals in your zoo?

I've also noticed that there are now no toys or shelter's under the zookeeper recommendations for the Hippopotamus (this may also have explained why I couldn't get RND's space hack to work).  

Has anyone else seen these problems or are they exclusive to my machine?  I know RND has seen the problem with animals not ordering correctly - but I'm not sure if he's the only one.

how many times do i have to say im a SHE rofl
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Crookshankz227 on December 20, 2006, 08:24:46 AM
Yes, I have problems with the order. The hippie lady also has extra faces for hair. Other than these, my game has no problems.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Bengal on December 20, 2006, 09:10:32 AM
I have the same problem with the "hippy lady" Crooky.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on December 20, 2006, 11:58:54 AM
Sorry RND, I knew that too - just carelessness on my part.

I'm tempted to format my machine and start from scratch so as to get everything (not just ZT2) working to it's highest capacity.  I don't use the marine animals enough to offset the annoyance of the animals not being ordered correctly, so until it's fixed - I'm keeping MM2 uninstalled.  I don't know when/if it will be fixed with the only thing being close to a rumored patch/expansion was when someone had the "Extinct" expansion up on Amazon (I believe it has since been taken down).
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: mikaboshi on December 20, 2006, 05:53:57 PM
As far as I know, the ordering problem is something that occurred before MM2...I don't think its a MM2 exclusive. But yet, when I go to look at my animals, that are listed right. Maybe a hack or something is interferring with it? I don't have the answer for you.

My hippos have recommendations so I can't explain that one either.

The hippie lady I do have problems with, but I have to tell you, some of this is pretty nit picky. I never noticed it until someone pointed it out, and thus its not that big of a problem to me. This I don't think is a legitimate "bug". A bug to me is something that makes it so the game is either unplayable or such a hassle to deal with that it is nop longer fun. So far, I have not found many bugs such as that in ZT2.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: shecrock on December 20, 2006, 06:09:38 PM
yes I have that too. its not A big deal .
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Nique on December 20, 2006, 06:22:33 PM
The only thing I have to add, is that I do have the problems with the animal order as well - but I saw it before MM2 also. And I don't play with any hacks, Mika, so I don't think that is the problem. Maybe a download but because of my recent computer issues, I don't play with user downloads installed either (I'll place them for a particular zoo and remove later) - so I do think it is something from within the game itself.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on December 21, 2006, 04:55:40 AM
The animal ordering is a problem for me (as evident by my constant complaining about it), because it's the easiest way to control an animal population within a zoo.  When they're out of order it's harder to see how many males and females of each species are in the zoo.

As for this issue occuring earlier - It didn't occur in the same way it's occuring now that MM2 has been created.  Before it was just male animals of one species appearing before the females did.  Now, it's species themselves getting mixed up.

The hippo issue I'm almost certain is exclusive to my machine, and is likely the result of it being almost two years old (albeit a top of the line model in February 2005).

I've also had a problem, both before and after MM2 with a zoo completely losing all the awards in the awards screen - and then subsequently not giving out any more in game challenges.  I'm not sure what causes this, but I believe it's happened to me twice now - the most recent was a Large City Zoo where I started out with only $5000.  By year 3 this had happened.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Crookshankz227 on December 21, 2006, 06:07:06 AM
About the population, I monitor that by sorting the animals by pregnancy, try that and see if it helps.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on December 21, 2006, 11:15:46 AM
Quote from: Crookshankz227;167113
About the population, I monitor that by sorting the animals by pregnancy, try that and see if it helps.


I try to keep 4 males and 4 females of each species (with a few exceptions for those species that don't self-sustain very well).  When the list orders correctly it is ideal for this.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: wolfkid92 on December 23, 2006, 03:04:41 PM
since marine mania all of my red kangaroos only give birth to males.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Ouch on December 25, 2006, 01:38:56 PM
The major problem with me is that I can't play ANY game saved before the installation of Marine Mania anymore. I've had to delete everything.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: wolfkid92 on December 27, 2006, 07:33:27 PM
ever since MM the dinos no longer attack their dino dummy the right way. they are soo far away from the dummy when they use it.
Title: White Shark Zoopedia
Post by: Bep-Boi on December 28, 2006, 07:48:31 PM
In the Great White Zoopedia, it says in the fun facts are "Blacktip Reef Shark" Instead of Great White Shark :huh:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Zoo_builder101 on December 31, 2006, 11:25:14 AM
I am having problems swimming under water. I can go into a tank but when I try to go underwater I can't. the only way for me to get underwater is to swim with an animal.

Zoo Builder
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: wolfkid92 on December 31, 2006, 11:31:15 AM
how are u trying to go under water? are u moving the mouse so your looking downward and then pressing the up arrow, or clicking the left mouse button? it always works for me...
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Zoo_builder101 on December 31, 2006, 12:22:59 PM
yea I am looking down and clicking the left mouse button and looking down but I only go forward.
Zoo Builder
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: mikaboshi on December 31, 2006, 12:28:15 PM
Do you have a scroll wheel on your mouse? Try using that if you do.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Zoo_builder101 on December 31, 2006, 12:38:56 PM
thanks that works.
Zoo Builder
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: wolfkid92 on January 13, 2007, 09:12:05 PM
they fixed the peafowl crown back to normal in MM2 but they still havnt fixed the peafowl eggs map.
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8500/untitledmi1.png)
PS: isnt the rockhopper penguins map wrong too?
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: Bep-Boi on January 18, 2007, 03:03:56 PM
My Black leopards don't have a zoopedia. It doesn't matter if i re-install, take out downloads or anything it's still not there
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on January 19, 2007, 07:13:10 AM
After a certain period, my in game challenges disappear.  I don't know if it's because I don't opt to do enough of them or what, but I just flat out stop receiving in game challenges, and the awards bonuses disappear as well.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: wolfkid92 on January 23, 2007, 03:43:07 PM
my guest are so busy watching the goblin sharks they forget to rest and eat and look at things to get amused. and now they constantly complain.
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: tuxedoman128 on January 26, 2007, 02:06:00 PM
my whale sharks dont grow like they are supposed to.  how do i fix this
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: wolfkid92 on January 26, 2007, 03:58:16 PM
um what do u mean how do u know maybe ur just not waiting long enough??? it takes at least 4 years or more so... try to wait it out and see
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on February 08, 2007, 12:05:32 PM
Quote from: wolfkid92;178204
um what do u mean how do u know maybe ur just not waiting long enough??? it takes at least 4 years or more so... try to wait it out and see


was this in response to my post or the whale sharks inquiry?
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: mikaboshi on February 08, 2007, 12:08:23 PM
I'm thinking it was about the whale sharks AnimalKingdom :thumbsup:
Title: Bug Reports
Post by: wolfkid92 on February 08, 2007, 03:35:01 PM
idk if its a bug or not, but some of the animations on the mm animals show tricks are a little iffy. the animals (otter, sea lion, ect) dont exactly stand on the platform but float above it, and when the dolphin hits the tetherball it just spazzes the ball moves and then theres a splash and the dolphin lands back in the water.
Title: Re: Bug Reports
Post by: goldenpuon on February 10, 2007, 02:49:34 PM
When you click on Freeform Game, the MM2 maps are blue.  I'm not sure if this is a bug or just my computer. :second:
Title: Re: Bug Reports
Post by: wolfkid92 on February 15, 2007, 07:54:33 PM
the tussac grasses picture is wrong for the zoopedia, and in relation to the zoopedia its map is wrong and shows it being an ocean plant found all around the world while the zoopedia says its found in south america.
Title: Re: Bug Reports
Post by: SabseH on March 20, 2007, 05:45:08 AM
Since installing MM, I noticed that I often don't get the 'researched item is now available' message. When I go back and click on the animal I need it for, it shows it available and then I get the message too, but it doesn't come up by itself. And I've waited and waited and waited.... LOL     It doesn't happen with food/amusement things, just the animal items.
Not a big deal, but I wanted to see if it's just me...
Title: Re: Bug Reports
Post by: huntergaber@seaworld on March 20, 2007, 05:49:58 AM
SabseH,
That happens to me to. I just noticed it 10 min. ago.
Hmm
NO idea whats wrong.

(I like the new smilies! ) :dolphin
Title: Re: Bug Reports
Post by: bekkr on March 27, 2007, 04:06:37 PM
i buiilt a hybrid tank and put four manatee's in it and they would stop moving completely eveyr few minutes or so, so i decided to sell them and replaced them with bottlenose dolphins and they also would stop moving. :duh:
Title: Re: Bug Reports
Post by: flickerslair on April 08, 2007, 08:35:48 AM
The animal list ordering is a problem and should be dealt with. I have ZT2 - zoo keepers collection with MM. I have no hacks, and it doesn't list correctly.
Title: Re: Bug Reports
Post by: Tazzie-Tiger99 on April 08, 2007, 05:25:28 PM

i buiilt a hybrid tank and put four manatee's in it and they would stop moving completely eveyr few minutes or so, so i decided to sell them and replaced them with bottlenose dolphins and they also would stop moving. :duh:


did you take an idea ball out of the manatees tank??



here is my problem

i installed MM2 and all my shops, stands, and stuff dont have the cashear

my insect and reptile house inhabitants dont move........ well the camelion moves his head a little but nothing else and the turtles rock is gone

the inhabitants of touch pools dont move either

but all other MM2 mini houses inhabitants move

and on the box it shows a MM gift shop as a turtle not a treasure chest

Title: Re: Bug Reports
Post by: ShenTirag on April 09, 2007, 02:51:36 AM
Tazz-Tiger99, pretty much all of your bugs appear to be due to low graphics settings.  Have you tried turning them up?
Title: Re: Bug Reports
Post by: mikaboshi on April 09, 2007, 04:42:54 AM
Ever since MM2, Bengal Tigers have been coded to only be able to have the orange tiger default skin and the white tiger variant; any others added by users do not work. I'm hoping that this is a quick fix that will be addressed in the next expansion because while you at BF might not care about the variant situation, as a designer and a user-made download user myself, I find it quite sad. Thanks.
Title: Re: Bug Reports
Post by: AnimalKingdom on April 12, 2007, 12:18:26 PM
I haven't been in the ZT2 loop for a few months now.  Has Blue Fang released any patches for Marine Mania, or any information regarding when one might be released?

Additionally, has there been any more insight into the rumored "Extinct Animals" expansion?
Title: Re: Bug Reports
Post by: Seadragon on April 12, 2007, 02:03:04 PM
you know how there is a background outside of the zoo? my backgrounds disappeared. Its just a big, black, void now.
Title: Re: Bug Reports
Post by: Tazzie-Tiger99 on April 12, 2007, 02:45:49 PM

you know how there is a background outside of the zoo? my backgrounds disappeared. Its just a big, black, void now.


very very sketchey

*twilight zone theme playin in background*

graphics settings??